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GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-12-10 20:58:56 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Mathrin wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Dave stark wrote:


so... like light medium and heavy drones do now?


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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#22 - 2012-12-10 21:04:19 UTC
Homeworld Cataclysm drones? i like that idea would be nice to have it here, drones that use 1 m3 of drone bay space so you can have lots of them and use them as ammo, or as partial disruptors or alike.
Battle On
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2012-12-10 21:06:15 UTC
Merrc wrote:
take out propulsion,


web drones

Merrc wrote:
take out weapons


ECM

Merrc wrote:
or simply start chewing thru shields or armor.


Damage,

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Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-12-10 21:21:37 UTC
Battle On wrote:
Merrc wrote:
take out propulsion,


web drones

Merrc wrote:
take out weapons


ECM

Merrc wrote:
or simply start chewing thru shields or armor.


Damage,

You're welcome


This breaks down with drone boats.

As in, consider a typical drone boat. Damage will be split 50/50 between turrets and drones. See Tristan, Algos, Vexor, Dominix, etc.

What happens when a Tristan decides to release 5 web drones (because that's what it takes, 5 drones roughly equal to single web module). What happens to DPS? It is cut by 50%.

Now, consider a non-drone boat (boat with drones, but not bonused), such as Drake. Damage will be split about 90/10 between launchers and drones, maybe even more in favour of launchers, if you factor in travel time to target. So, if a Drake pilot decides to field 5 web drones, what happens to DPS? It is cut by only 10%.

As such, a drone boat, a boat DESIGNED to use and carry various types of drones, loses the most when using various types. Especially considering that drone bonuses are only to damage/hp of drones, and not their effectiveness at webbing, EWAR, etc.

That's just one of many, many, MANY things that's broken about the current drones and drone boats.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2012-12-10 22:39:40 UTC
They got rid of beehive domi for a reason.
raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
#26 - 2012-12-11 00:41:03 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
EVE needs Suicide Drones.

Go to launch them and you realize that they left their engines running in the hanger.



They were made into suicide drones with this expansion. Just launch them and watch them suicide themselves for nothing.
Planktal
Kenshao Industries
#27 - 2012-12-11 09:34:03 UTC
Merrc wrote:
Could we get drones that land on opposing ships and take out propulsion, weapons or simply start chewing thru shields or armor. Im too old and slow to keep track of all the flying locusts.Shocked


Sounds like you want the Leach-class Breaching Pod from Homeworld Cataclysm.

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Elizabeth Gee
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-12-11 11:55:20 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
This could actually be a fun thing.

Drones that just beeline for a ship, clamp to it's hull and do stuff. Like paint it, cause a cap leak or interfere with reppers.

They'd have to be pretty small as they would be use-once suicide drones. Once on a hull they stick there until the ship is blown up or makes it to a station to be deloused. Or have them run for a few minutes and then be out of power.

Lots of possibilities.

Mr Epeen Cool


I like this idea!
Mund Richard
#29 - 2012-12-11 12:19:50 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Pyre leFay wrote:
Merrc wrote:
drones should actually move in more straight line trajectories-.
So they can die even faster. great idea.
Considering their stats, such as signature radius, they might as well fly in a straight line and hold up a big huge "Shoot me!" sign while doing so.
I mean, think about it. A heavy drone, regardless of whether it is a slow armor tanked Gallente Ogre or a lighter and more nimble shield-tanked Minmatar Berseker, they both have signature radius of 100 m. Ogre has mass of 12,000 kg, and volume of 25 cubic meters. Berserker is 10,000 kg and also 25 cubic meters.
Meanwhile, a Vexor, that can hold many of these (5?) and deploy 3, has signature radius of 150m, mass of 10,310,000 kg and volume of 115000 cubic meters.
So, a single drone has 2/3rds the sig radius of the ship, while being 0.11% of the ship's mass and 0.02% of the ship's volume. Does this make ANY sense? Anyone? Do these percentages look...right? 66.6% signature, at 0.11% mass and 0.02% volume? How does that happen?

Don't.
Just don't try to make sense of the numbers, only makes your head hurt.
Specially if it affects the sacred balance.

Other fun numbers: stargates should collapse and become a black hole based on their own weight. Or so I've heard.

"We want PvE activities to require active participation and mirror PvP more closely." Stacking penalty for NPC EWAR then? Lock range under 9km from over 100 in a BS is not fun. Nor is two NPC web drones making me crawl 10m/s. PvP SW-900 x5: 75m/s.
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#30 - 2012-12-11 12:27:18 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
They got rid of beehive domi for a reason.


Yes, but couldn't we go for a more subtle approach where drones use differing amount of bandwidth instead.

If, for example, web and light ecm drones used 1/5th the bandwidth of a light scout drone you could choose to launch
5 light scout drones
4 light scout drones plus 5 web drones
3 light scout drones plus 5 web drones plus 5 light ecm drones

The drone boat would lose some of its DPS to gain the equivalent of a single slot module but not as much as it does now.

This would likely require a new skill to allow control of more than 5 drones but drone boat pilots are used to having to have a ridiculous number of skills to function.
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