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Salvage drones, working as intended?

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Planktal
Kenshao Industries
#21 - 2012-12-06 12:04:09 UTC
looks like if the wrecks are yours the drones work fine but if the wrecks are like a corp mate that's in your fleet the drones ignore them even if wrecks are released.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#22 - 2012-12-06 12:40:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
CCP Paradox wrote:
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though.

Can you add this shortcut key to mining drones too? I even have the asteroid targeted!

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Steijn
Quay Industries
#23 - 2012-12-06 13:07:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Steijn
CCP Paradox wrote:
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though.


Im finding that these dont work as you say.

I have numerous wrecks, all made by myself. I have nothing targeted, i release drones, issue salvage command, drones go off and salvage a wreck, return, then any number of the 5 just sit there and do nothing, wheras maybe 1 or 2 go salvage another wreck, when these 1 or 2 return, they then join the others and just sit idle even though there are still wrecks........i would say that this is not working as intended.

EDIT: Really stupid question, but what range do these salvage drones supposedly go out to? I see an optimal range 0f 5000m, and yet this seems totally wrong.
Dimitryy
Silent Knights.
LinkNet
#24 - 2012-12-06 13:49:23 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
...if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful.


I don't think my life will be getting any more useful with salvaging drones. At least not while i spend half my time at work playing Eve Big smile
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-12-06 14:02:52 UTC
Steijn wrote:
CCP Paradox wrote:
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though.


Im finding that these dont work as you say.

I have numerous wrecks, all made by myself. I have nothing targeted, i release drones, issue salvage command, drones go off and salvage a wreck, return, then any number of the 5 just sit there and do nothing, wheras maybe 1 or 2 go salvage another wreck, when these 1 or 2 return, they then join the others and just sit idle even though there are still wrecks........i would say that this is not working as intended.

EDIT: Really stupid question, but what range do these salvage drones supposedly go out to? I see an optimal range 0f 5000m, and yet this seems totally wrong.

They will, go out to what ever your drone control range is, it starts at 20k and with skills it goes up to 60k with Max skills.

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KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#26 - 2012-12-06 15:57:21 UTC  |  Edited by: KIller Wabbit
CCP Paradox wrote:
They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful.

That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P


A bit surprised that this discussion wasn't moved to the official threads. Shocked

Are the drones smart enough to only go after the wrecks they are best suited for first or will they do their darnedest to find a T3 wreck to get stuck on?
Doddy
Excidium.
#27 - 2012-12-06 16:19:15 UTC
Steijn wrote:
CCP Paradox wrote:
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though.


Im finding that these dont work as you say.

I have numerous wrecks, all made by myself. I have nothing targeted, i release drones, issue salvage command, drones go off and salvage a wreck, return, then any number of the 5 just sit there and do nothing, wheras maybe 1 or 2 go salvage another wreck, when these 1 or 2 return, they then join the others and just sit idle even though there are still wrecks........i would say that this is not working as intended.

EDIT: Really stupid question, but what range do these salvage drones supposedly go out to? I see an optimal range 0f 5000m, and yet this seems totally wrong.


5000m is thier salvage range same as the module. Thier drone range will be dependent on your skills.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#28 - 2012-12-06 18:06:44 UTC
TY Doddy/Omna.

Still finding that sometimes when they return, they dont all go back to salvaging, some just orbit me.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#29 - 2012-12-06 18:13:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Xercodo
CCP Paradox wrote:
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though.


While you're at ti can be PLEASE have a hotkey for mining drones? Or just get all drone action integrated into "Engage"? It makes more sense seeing as how all the drones have only one action, the engage command should do that action regardless of what it is.

And get rid of the "mine once" function and leave just the "mine repeatedly" function. Mining once is pointless with drones.... especially with lack of a hotkey D:

Edit: For the sake of consistency I think requiring a first target for salvage drones would be best so that you don't have this problem with the hotkey being used on an action that doesn't require a target. From there the drones can use either the aggressive flag or some other whole new flag to decide whether to salvage more or not.

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Panda McLegion
#30 - 2012-12-06 18:17:46 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
CCP Paradox wrote:
They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful.

That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P


That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it.

See what I did there? Blink


This, pretty much.

CCP has repeatedly held that salvage is owned by no one, thus generates no flag. Why now do drones recognize ownership of a wreck's salvage?

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#31 - 2012-12-06 19:29:12 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
CCP Paradox wrote:
They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful.

That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P


That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it.

See what I did there? Blink

It is naughty, just not sufficiently naughty to be illegal.

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Thelic38
Gulf Squadron
#32 - 2012-12-06 19:47:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Thelic38
Salvage drones seem uneffected by drone control range? Just had my salvage drones out past 70km in the Noctis, no drone link modules fitted.

Definatly having problems with auto salvaging blue/corp wrecks, they like to just come back and orbit.

Also seeing a lot of all 5 returning before going back to auto salvaging. I was under the impression that only the sucessful one would return.
MainDrain
Applied Anarchy
The Initiative.
#33 - 2012-12-06 20:36:02 UTC
Yup having the same issue of my drones not salvaging my fleets wrecks, even when made blue
Mika Takahoshi
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-12-06 21:14:53 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it.

See what I did there? Blink

Yes, you confused the orthogonal concepts of "wrong" and "illegal". P
Irya Boone
The Scope
#35 - 2012-12-07 01:29:58 UTC
Really ? CCP what your problem With drones ?
can't set a shortcut to mine or salvage ...
can't give them real speed ( or a Micro Jump to get in range of a target .... )

Seriously ..... I try to understand But .....

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

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Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-12-09 20:28:42 UTC
Confirming that salvage drones will not auto-target fleet members wrecks (salvager was different corp that rest of fleet). Wrecks were valid to loot/tractor but salvage drones said there were no valid wrecks
Red zeon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-12-10 04:52:03 UTC
i just got to work now but if anyone would wanna try leaving fleet and then try if the salvage drones auto salvages?
or never join fleet but give bookmark and warp to the wrecks if that helps?
nesdaq
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-01-06 02:19:23 UTC  |  Edited by: nesdaq
Bump,
Any work on the corp/blue wrecks? They are pretty much useless w/out this option.
The AI of the salvage drones can use a buff up to tbh (salvage in a set of 5 or one for each wreck for example)
Alpha Wolfgang
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-01-15 01:30:02 UTC
it would be nice if salvage drones automatically cleaned up all wrecks that are white, doing missions with a friend and my drones wont clean up because theyre his. What?
CENTUREAN
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-01-15 02:34:33 UTC
They work fine as long as the wrecks were created by u alone.

1 warp to site.
2 do not target anything.
3 pop out salvage drones
4 do not target anything.
5 set drones to salvage.
6 wait 4 seconds. Then noctis tractor beam in all wreaks to 0
7 at this point the drones are automatic
8 tractor and salvage till done.

I assume wrecks created by anyone other than the ratting character will lose the ability to automate the drones.
my ratter character is the same as my noctis character...it works fine for me.

My salvage drones never leave 0 from my noctis as I tractor all the wrecks in to 0.