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Anyone Else Colorblind?

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Sci Khalas
West Khanid Manufacturing
#1 - 2012-12-08 23:51:39 UTC
Hey CCP, have you guys ever discussed designing with colorblind players in mind?

I apologize if this has been discussed in the past. I did a forum search but I'm on a break at work and don't have much time to dig through old posts.

Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#2 - 2012-12-09 01:01:51 UTC
You certainly aren't the only one. CCP Fozi is also colorblind, I'm sure it comes up in discussions around the iceland office. But bump for a good idea that's long overdue.
Almox
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-12-09 01:12:45 UTC
Yeah I'm colourblind (red/green)

It's a nightmare then using ECM with the blue and green backgrounds looking (to me at least) the same

Most of the rest of eve is fine I think lol
I feel your pain :)
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-12-09 01:23:49 UTC
In line with this discussion, I have been progressively losing my sight over the past couple of years & would appreciate EVE Online using some sort of brail system. I suspect I won't be able to see at all in 2 years.

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YoYo NickyYo
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-12-09 01:24:08 UTC
While I feel for you, expecting a game developer to take that into account may be expecting a bit too much....


I am not, nor will I ever be...Nicky Yo.... The question you should ask is.....When will they release the NICKY!

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-12-09 01:41:07 UTC
Eve: Braille version Big smile

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#7 - 2012-12-09 01:48:55 UTC
I'm colorblind, too. I don't see what you'd like to take CCP into account; I've never had trouble with Eve in that respect.

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#8 - 2012-12-09 01:49:59 UTC
Sci Khalas wrote:
Hey CCP, have you guys ever discussed designing with colorblind players in mind?
Yes, they have actually.
While the linked post is just an example, it is never wrong to post about issues you encounter playing EvE because of collor blindness. A good start would be in the Retribution feedback thread if for example new features introduced in the Retribution expansion are giving you specific problems on that regard.
That thread is is constantly monitored by CCP, so you can be assured your feedback (if written clearly and constructively) is read by the relevant people.

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-12-09 02:06:00 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
In line with this discussion, I have been progressively losing my sight over the past couple of years & would appreciate EVE Online using some sort of brail system. I suspect I won't be able to see at all in 2 years.

You know they have some really innovative stuff going on with making cyber eyes, you might want to look into it.
Sci Khalas
West Khanid Manufacturing
#10 - 2012-12-10 03:26:34 UTC
I will most likely continue playing EVE regardless of if a change is ever put into place. Just wondering what the playerbase thought of the issue.

For me I have all forms of colorblindness. Almost every single one you can have. Red/Green, Red/Blue, Blue/Purple being the most annoying but when various hues enter the mix I usually have to think about it before I can name any color.

Things like red and green or red and blue are very commonly used color choices to represent conflicting/varying states. Things that tend to work better for my eyes are blue and yellow or purple and orange. Oh, how I love purple and orange.

I thank you for your response Ezwal. I will definitely get to writing a more thorough bit of feedback. Until then I'll just have my slave take a break from updating my market orders so that he can provide tactical support during combat.
Khalas Slave
West Khanid Manufacturing
#11 - 2012-12-10 03:26:48 UTC
I once placed Infrared ammunition in his hold instead of Radio and I was thrown in a pit with the slaver hounds for a week... Cry
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-12-10 03:52:10 UTC
Khalas Slave wrote:
I once placed Infrared ammunition in his hold instead of Radio and I was thrown in a pit with the slaver hounds for a week... Cry


Hang your head in shame! Evil

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Khalas Slave
West Khanid Manufacturing
#13 - 2012-12-10 03:52:49 UTC
Ok...
TharOkha
0asis Group
#14 - 2012-12-10 06:40:45 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Mallak Azaria wrote:
In line with this discussion, I have been progressively losing my sight over the past couple of years & would appreciate EVE Online using some sort of brail system. I suspect I won't be able to see at all in 2 years.



sarcasm detected AttentionRoll

You know that colorblindness is among 10% of overal male population? Myself included. This "defect" is nothing unusual and in many cases, one realizes this in advanced age (20-30) I remember when they changed capacitor colors ad it was difficult to recognize if it was empty or full. All they had to do is change color scale and it was done.... There is no need of dull goon insult here dude Ugh
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#15 - 2012-12-10 06:43:28 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
In line with this discussion, I have been progressively losing my sight over the past couple of years & would appreciate EVE Online using some sort of brail system. I suspect I won't be able to see at all in 2 years.


It's called a monocle malfunction.
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-12-10 09:03:08 UTC
The ability to manually select ui indicator colours and overview colours on a customs level would nail this. Default red/green but any combination you wish. I have no vision defects myself but I have seen this thread a few times now and it seems like low hanging fruit.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-12-10 09:07:34 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
In line with this discussion, I have been progressively losing my sight over the past couple of years & would appreciate EVE Online using some sort of brail system. I suspect I won't be able to see at all in 2 years.



sarcasm detected AttentionRoll

You know that colorblindness is among 10% of overal male population? Myself included. This "defect" is nothing unusual and in many cases, one realizes this in advanced age (20-30) I remember when they changed capacitor colors ad it was difficult to recognize if it was empty or full. All they had to do is change color scale and it was done.... There is no need of dull goon insult here dude Ugh


You dare make fun of my condition? Even as a goon, I would never stoop that low.

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Winterblink
#18 - 2012-12-11 03:16:46 UTC
I remember some years back when CCP paid some attention to the color blind among us. Plain red/green boxes became red X's and green checkmarks. I had figured this would have been an ongoing effort by them as part of normal development.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-12-11 04:07:24 UTC
Winterblink wrote:
I remember some years back when CCP paid some attention to the color blind among us. Plain red/green boxes became red X's and green checkmarks. I had figured this would have been an ongoing effort by them as part of normal development.


Then they got into eugenics Big smile

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