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Safe Logout While Bubbled
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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#1 - 2012-12-10 01:08:18 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#2 - 2012-12-10 01:11:12 UTC
CaptainFalcon07
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#3 - 2012-12-10 01:11:22 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


In most cases you'll be caught in 1 minute in a bubble.

But I'm certain CCP will fix this.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#4 - 2012-12-10 01:18:48 UTC
CaptainFalcon07 wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


In most cases you'll be caught in 1 minute in a bubble.

But I'm certain CCP will fix this.


Maybe I've been lucky but I used to play with my corp mates inside and out of hostile bubbles for 10-15 minutes at a time Cool

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#5 - 2012-12-10 02:07:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
CaptainFalcon07 wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


In most cases you'll be caught in 1 minute in a bubble.

But I'm certain CCP will fix this.


iirc reading the patch notes it is intentional. Bubbles do not cause aggression; be kind of silly if they did tbh.

..now, there is that thing about leaving them somewhere and having them involved in someones death while you happen to be roaming highsec however... probably nothing though, because you can't anchor them outside of wormholes and null.
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-12-10 04:10:45 UTC
So, what's the problem?
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-10 04:17:59 UTC
Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:
So, what's the problem?


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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-12-10 04:24:58 UTC
The camera broke. Sad
HostageTaker
Band of Freelancers
#9 - 2012-12-10 05:21:53 UTC
Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:
The camera broke. Sad


Was it a Nikon D600?

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Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#10 - 2012-12-10 05:33:48 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


Well the safe log out uses a count down. So if the bubble is being camped and somebody cannot target somebody in the minute that they're sitting in the bubble then it's kinda their fault. However, if the bubble isn't being camped I don't really see a problem.
Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#11 - 2012-12-10 05:34:47 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


Well the safe log out uses a count down. So if the bubble is being camped and somebody cannot target somebody in the minute that they're sitting in the bubble then it's kinda their fault. However, if the bubble isn't being camped I don't really see a problem.


ALSO There's like those times when bubbles get anchored right on the pos shields in an overlapping manner. Not being able to safe log while in a pos shield cause the bubbles are overlapping can kind of be overly griefy.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2012-12-10 06:24:16 UTC
At least it's not a "dude....your face' situation.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#13 - 2012-12-10 06:36:34 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


Well the safe log out uses a count down. So if the bubble is being camped and somebody cannot target somebody in the minute that they're sitting in the bubble then it's kinda their fault. However, if the bubble isn't being camped I don't really see a problem.


ALSO There's like those times when bubbles get anchored right on the pos shields in an overlapping manner. Not being able to safe log while in a pos shield cause the bubbles are overlapping can kind of be overly griefy.

I assume bubbles stop you from warping even if you are in a POS. Interesting.

How large are the largest bubbles, can you lock down a POS with them?

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#14 - 2012-12-10 07:47:38 UTC
Biggest bubbles are covering 40km radius. So that you can completely lock down an ennemy inside a POS.

This technique is called r*pe cage, and requires a huge attacker coverage.

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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#15 - 2012-12-10 08:55:32 UTC
When you log under a tower your ship does not attempt a warp. Which means you could (and still can) log under a **** caged tower shield. This however is an entirely new situation that was never intended by the devs. I strongly believe they did not intend bubbled people in open space to be able to safe log.

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-12-10 09:19:27 UTC
Altrue wrote:
This technique is called bubble wrapping, and requires a huge attacker coverage.

FTFY

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CaiIyn Dove
DMoney Corp
Fraternity.
#17 - 2012-12-10 11:52:46 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


Covered by a bubble but no one can attack you == Safe

If you think he is not in safe, shoot him and give him a timer, the safely logout timer will be cancelled.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#18 - 2012-12-10 11:53:38 UTC
While this seems silly, chances are you'll be agressed and have the PvP flag before you can log out.

Is there any situation where this is exploitable?

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#19 - 2012-12-10 11:53:53 UTC
HostageTaker wrote:
Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:
The camera broke. Sad


Was it a Nikon D600?

lol



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Excidium.
#20 - 2012-12-10 12:02:44 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You betcha! Because the safe logout feature does not attempt to warp your ship, it will not cause aggression. And you can logout while under a bubble.


Well the safe log out uses a count down. So if the bubble is being camped and somebody cannot target somebody in the minute that they're sitting in the bubble then it's kinda their fault. However, if the bubble isn't being camped I don't really see a problem.


ALSO There's like those times when bubbles get anchored right on the pos shields in an overlapping manner. Not being able to safe log while in a pos shield cause the bubbles are overlapping can kind of be overly griefy.


Not really, you would just do a normal log out.
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