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(#81 - 2012.11) BMBE Shareholder Report - BMBE the Premier Bank of EVE
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TornSoul
BIG
#1 - 2012-12-09 23:39:51 UTC
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  • Points of interest
  • The numbers


This is the 81st BMBE shareholder report
(Shareholder reports are released the first full weekend after the 7th in a month)


Points of interest

A small 10B loan happened.

--

From last report
Quote:

BSAC is closing
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=165625&find=unread

BMBE has a lot of BSAMR/BSAMT shares that, on purpose, have always been listed in the books at a very low value.
Once the buybacks from BSAC has been completed (BSAC estimates early/mid december), BMBE stands to "earn" roughly 10B ISK.
Ie. NAV will go up with about 4%.

So now would be a very good time to try and get hold of some BMBE shares :-) (at current value)


The BSAMT shares have been sold - resulting in a 586M ISK "profit" - with respect to the value of the shares in the books (+13%)
The BSAMR shares still remain to be sold.
TornSoul
BIG
#2 - 2012-12-09 23:40:01 UTC
The numbers

November Dividends
Total : 480,000,000.00 ISK
Per share : 275,703.62 ISK


November re-investement
Total : 240,000,000.00 ISK
Per share : 137,851.81 ISK


November NAV
Total : 226,832,127,731.68 ISK
Per Share : 130,288,413.40 (1741 BMBE shares public)


November ROI
ROI : 0.32%

End of month liquid ISK
Total : 120,785,599,717.78 ISK


Start of month loan amount
0 ISK


End of month loan amount
10,000,000,000 ISK


Average daily amount on loan
6,333,333,333.33 ISK


Share portfolie
Total value : 37,817,095,000 ISK

BSAMR 444,907 @85,000 ISK
TornSoul
BIG
#3 - 2012-12-09 23:40:08 UTC
Dividend History Per Share

[b]2006.02[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2006.03[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2006.04[/b]     567,705.06 ISK
[b]2006.05[/b]   2,120,000.00 ISK
[b]2006.06[/b]   1,660,000.00 ISK
[b]2006.07[/b]   1,036,000.00 ISK
[b]2006.08[/b]     651,000.00 ISK
[b]2006.09[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2006.10[/b]      10,000.00 ISK
[b]2006.11[/b]      55,000.00 ISK
[b]2006.12[/b]   1,240,640.00 ISK
[b]2007.01[/b]   1,769,120.00 ISK
[b]2007.02[/b]   1,456,554.30 ISK
[b]2007.03[/b]   1,559,647.00 ISK
[b]2007.04[/b]   1,389,126.10 ISK
[b]2007.05[/b]   1,320,677.50 ISK
[b]2007.06[/b]   1,708,296.60 ISK
[b]2007.07[/b]   1,560,093.04 ISK
[b]2007.08[/b]   1,389,577.68 ISK
[b]2007.09[/b]   1,925,233.60 ISK
[b]2007.10[/b]   1,875,814.72 ISK
[b]2007.11[/b]   1,608,953.36 ISK
[b]2007.12[/b]   1,226,948.72 ISK
[b]2008.01[/b]   1,494,801.41 ISK
[b]2008.02[/b]   1,655,349.56 ISK
[b]2008.03[/b]     890,043.14 ISK
[b]2008.04[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2008.05[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2008.06[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2008.07[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2008.08[/b]     207,287.81 ISK
[b]2008.09[/b]     137,312.78 ISK
[b]2008.10[/b]     535,504.58 ISK
[b]2008.11[/b]     841,536.19 ISK
[b]2008.12[/b]   1,301,060.90 ISK
[b]2009.01[/b]     954,077.43 ISK
[b]2009.02[/b]     913,592.90 ISK
[b]2009.03[/b]     955,739.51 ISK
[b]2009.04[/b]     357,353.52 ISK
[b]2009.05[/b]     281,178.88 ISK
[b]2009.06[/b]     567,702.44 ISK
[b]2009.07[/b]     990,563.86 ISK
[b]2009.08[/b]   1,108,303.40 ISK
[b]2009.09[/b]     981,928.45 ISK
[b]2009.10[/b]     790,670.55 ISK
[b]2009.11[/b]     725,364.53 ISK
[b]2009.12[/b]   1,493,512.80 ISK
[b]2010.01[/b]   1,787,144,30 ISK
[b]2010.02[/b]   1,549,569.40 ISK
[b]2010.03[/b]     666,899.54 ISK
[b]2010.04[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2010.05[/b]           0.00 ISK
[b]2010.06[/b]   1,297,032.05 ISK
[b]2010.07[/b]   1,794,229.11 ISK
[b]2010.08[/b]   2,784,415.19 ISK
[b]2010.09[/b]   1,418,356.44 ISK
[b]2010.10[/b]   2,610,170.70 ISK
[b]2010.11[/b]   1,349,079.55 ISK
[b]2010.12[/b]   1,650,308.50 ISK
[b]2011.01[/b]   1,168,034.69 ISK
[b]2011.02[/b]   1,823,582.51 ISK
[b]2011.03[/b]     609,501.93 ISK
[b]2011.04[/b]     729,465.82 ISK
[b]2011.05[/b]     211,372.77 ISK
[b]2011.06[/b]     643,308.44 ISK
[b]2011.07[/b]     606,547.96 ISK
[b]2011.08[/b]     742,102.24 ISK
[b]2011.09[/b]     768,523.84 ISK
[b]2011.10[/b]   1,345,203.91 ISK
[b]2011.11[/b]   1,010,913.27 ISK
[b]2011.12[/b]   1,356,691.56 ISK
[b]2012.01[/b]     964,962.67 ISK
[b]2012.02[/b]     983,342.91 ISK
[b]2012.03[/b]   1,640,436.53 ISK
[b]2012.04[/b]   1,033,888.57 ISK
[b]2012.05[/b]     448,018.38 ISK
[b]2012.06[/b]     229,753.02 ISK
[b]2012.07[/b]     229,753.02 ISK
[b]2012.08[/b]     229,753.02 ISK
[b]2012.09[/b]     229,753.02 ISK
[b]2012.10[/b]     229,753.02 ISK
[b]2012.11[/b]     275,703.62 ISK

[b]Total[/b]    77,730,843.81 ISK
TornSoul
BIG
#4 - 2012-12-09 23:40:19 UTC
NAV per Share History

2006.02   50,000,000.00           TornSoul reporting
2006.03   50,000,000.00    0,00%
2006.04   50,000,000.00    0,00%
2006.05   50,720,000.00    1,44%
2006.06   50,876,000.00    0,31%
2006.07   51,394,000.00    1,02%
2006.08   51,719,500.00    0,63%
2006.09   51,719,500.00    0,00%
2006.10   51,719,500.00    0,00%
2006.11   51,774,500.00    0,11%
2006.12   52,809,060.00    2,00%
2007.01   53,693,620.00    1,68%
2007.02   54,421,897.10    1,36%
2007.03   55,201,721.00    1,43%
2007.04   55,896,284.10    1,26%
2007.05   56,556,622.90    1,18%
2007.06   43,417,267.90  -23,23%  Ray McCormack reporting
2007.07   45,524,495.36    4,85%
2007.08   47,245,553.01    3,78%
2007.09   58,350,178.96   23,50%
2007.10   59,385,678.14    1,77%
2007.11   60,333,036.82    1,60%
2007.12   61,310,035.66    1,62%
2008.01   63,542,586.97    3,64%
2008.02   65,296,177.94    2,76%
2008.03   75,531,514.23   15,68%
2008.04   75,531,514.23    0,00%
2008.05   76,384,523.78    1,13%  Sharlath reporting
2008.06   76,384,523.78    0,00%
2008.07   73,471,226.06   -3,81%  TornSoul reporting
2008.08   79,177,695.53    7,77%
2008.09   81,839,020.62    3,36%
2008.10   82,106,766.56    0,33%
2008.11   83,351,656.92    1,52%
2008.12   89,486,984.77    7,36%
2009.01   89,750,969.78    0,29%
2009.02   89,681,933.79   -0,08%
2009.03   91,222,040.35    1.72%
2009.04   91,317,638.40    0.10%
2009-05   91,815,581.36    0.55%
2009-06   92,099,432.58    0.31%
2009-07   92,805,063.43    0.77%
2009-08   93,359,215.13    0.60%
2009-09   93,850,179.36    0.53%
2009-10   94,350,636.21    0.53%
2009-11   94,713,318.47    0.38%
2009-12   97,358,874.65    2.79%
2010-01   98,876,906.13    1,56%
2010-02  100,075,088.00    1,21%
2010-03   99,778,573.35   -0,30%
2010-04   95,271,029.45   -4.52%
2010-05   94,891,830.63   -0.40%
2010-06  109,728,089.58   15.63%
2010-07  108,913,955.17   -0.74%
2010-08  109,752,038.82    0.77%
2010-09  111,175,355.39    1.30%
2010-10  115,598,200.23    3.98%
2010-11  116,432,246.25    0.72%
2010-12  117,967,070.33    1.32%
2011-01  118,599,324.67    0.54%
2011-02  120,311,137.26    1.44%
2011-03  119,864,821.90   -0.37%
2011-04  119,170,626.21   -0.58%
2011-05  121,129,235.45    1.64%
2011-06  120,589,316.07   -0.45%
2011-07  121,645,110.75    0.88%
2011-08  122,016,161.87    0.31%
2011-09  122,417,914.31    0.33%
2011-10  123,394,587.06    0.80%
2011-11  123,900,043.69    0.41%
2011-12  126,357,578.73    0.38%
2012-01  126,357,578.73    0.38%
2012-02  127.331.725,77    0.39%
2012-03  128.151.938,29    0.64%
2012-04  128,312,686.42    0.13%
2012-05  129,232,037.37    0.72%
2012-06  129,343,237.83    0.09%
2012-07  129,469,024.73    0.10%
2012-08  129,583,901.24    0.09%
2012-09  129,928,530.76    0.27%
2012-10  129,813,654.26   -0.09%
2012-11  130,288,413.40    0.37%




Notes
2007.06 23.23% Decrease : 30B ISK removed from books as result of default - Collateral not yet sold however.
2007.09 23.50% Increase : Collateral from default sold - Capital put back in the books.
2008.03 15.68% Increase : Massive stock sell-off, at values larger than the book value of the shares.
2008.07 -3.81% Decrease : 9B ISK where unaccounted for - And thus wasnt put in the books.
2008.08 7.77% Increase : 9B ISK recovered and put back into the books.
2008.12 7.36% Increase : Massive stock sell-off (FIN buy-back), at value larger than the book value of the shares.
2009.02 -0.08% Decrease : Negative liquid ISK value influencing NAV value downwards. Bookkeeping artifact.
2010.03 -0.30% Decrease : Lots of late/missing payments, reducing the liquid ISK available, thus reducing NAV
2010.04 -4.52% Decrease : Lots of late/missing payments, reducing the liquid ISK available, thus reducing NAV
2010.05 -0,40% Decrease : Lots of late/missing payments, reducing the liquid ISK available, thus reducing NAV
2010.06 15.63% Increase : Bookkeeping error - But see next entry
2010.07 -0.74% Decrease : If not for last months book keeping error, this would have been the month of a huge increase, due to profit on collateral sellof.
2011.04 -0.58% Decrease : Collateral loss.
2011.05 1.64% Increase : Slightly inflated number due to bookeeping error (See also next note)
2011.06 -0.45% Decrease : Only a decrease because of last months inflated number - Else would have been an increase.
2012.03 0.64% Increase : Artificial high increase, due to forgotten div payout (inflating NAV)
2012.04 0.13% Increase : See previous month - The artificial high number from last month, after correction, means this one is low.
2012.03 0.27% Increase : Artificial high increase, due to bookkeeping error related to late div payout (inflating NAV)
2012.04 -0.09% Increase : See previous month - The artificial high number from last month, after correction, means this one is low.
2012.11 0,37% Increase : BSAMT stock sell-off, at values larger than the book value of the shares.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#5 - 2012-12-11 15:58:31 UTC
Still looking to buy shares.

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Nerdy McButtHurt Trald
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-12-12 21:45:52 UTC
Grendell wrote:
Still looking to buy shares.


Grendell, why do you want to buy shares in BMBE? Seems a wired investment!

If you invested in BMBE in December 2010 the shares would have returned about 1.5% per month (including dividend payments and NAV increase).

If you invested in BMBE in December 2011 the shares return is less than 1% per month.


As an investment BMBE has a worse return than the public bonds YOU run! Why not just invest in those.

Fact is that BMBE has been dead format for some time. TS still clinging to plan that hasn't been good investors for 2 years.
It's all good for TS as most investors probably not even in game anymore.
IonHammer
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-13 10:46:51 UTC
Some of us are still here. I still get a kick out of being here from the start and getting something nearly every month.

Sure i have made investments that make 15% a month on occasion bu that doesn't last that long.

What did i pay 50 mill per share and now 130 ish.

1 % a month is 12 % a year if i knew TS like i should of i should have put a lot more in.
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
#8 - 2012-12-13 15:07:59 UTC
Nerdy McButtHurt Trald wrote:
Grendell wrote:
Still looking to buy shares.


Grendell, why do you want to buy shares in BMBE? Seems a wired investment!

If you invested in BMBE in December 2010 the shares would have returned about 1.5% per month (including dividend payments and NAV increase).

If you invested in BMBE in December 2011 the shares return is less than 1% per month.


As an investment BMBE has a worse return than the public bonds YOU run! Why not just invest in those.

Fact is that BMBE has been dead format for some time. TS still clinging to plan that hasn't been good investors for 2 years.
It's all good for TS as most investors probably not even in game anymore.


There's a few reasons behind my desire to purchase BMBE bonds. I like to look very far ahead when it comes to investing, and I am quite happy with low returns so long as it doesn't add to my work load. My personal isk is always tied up and constantly re-invested actively in higher returning ventures. Which is why I use investors isk for loans/bonds as it's fun and increases my income. A buy up of BMBE shares doesn't require much isk. The shares don't really get sold very often, so it is a small purchase here and there. There are many other reasons, but I guess that should cover your question.Smile

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TornSoul
BIG
#9 - 2012-12-13 21:28:33 UTC
Nerdy McButtHurt Trald wrote:

Fact is that BMBE has been dead format for some time. TS still clinging to plan that hasn't been good investors for 2 years.

Clinging - Ouch Bear

Lets do a quick pro/con on shutting it down vs. keeping it running

Shutting down (liquidation)
Pro :
- People get some ISK back
Con :
- Those people lose out on having a (granted meager) 100% passive income source each month.
- One less place in EVE to borrow ISK

Keep it running
Con :
- None I can think of tbh... If people want out, Grendell will gladly buy their shares. So kinda nullifies that one Pro of shutting it down.
Pro :
- The reverse of the cons above really.

So putting it on the balance, I would say it would be a net loss shutting it down pro/con wise - So why not keep it running.


Nerdy McButtHurt Trald wrote:

It's all good for TS as most investors probably not even in game anymore.

Uhm huh?

Whether the investors are ingame or not doesn't make it any less or more "good" for my in any way what so ever.
The ingame mechanics to pay out the divs is used each month - So... makes zero difference to me.


In fact, some months ago an investor came back after some 3 years of absence and send me an EVE mail saying what a pleasant surprise it was to see that the ISK had been coming in each and every month in his absence (I posted the mail in a shareholder report some time ago)

I guess that's one more in the pro-book for keeping it running btw Cool


But granted, as someone once said, "BMBE ain't sexy, but it's solid" Big smile
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-12-13 21:45:25 UTC
Posting in a stealth Ponzi Scheme.

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
TornSoul
BIG
#11 - 2012-12-14 18:55:41 UTC
A Ponzi scheme that has paid out more ISK than it has taken in - Now there's something you don't see every day Lol
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#12 - 2012-12-14 19:09:17 UTC
TornSoul wrote:
A Ponzi scheme that has paid out more ISK than it has taken in - Now there's something you don't see every day Lol

I think it's safe to say you're doing it wrong.
EssTatel
Suricata Gang
#13 - 2012-12-16 12:41:07 UTC
Grendell wrote:
Still looking to buy shares.



I have put my shares up for sale at last sold price.

PS: I'm selling because I need ISK otherwise would never do it, this is great investment.