Missions & Complexes

Has anyone tried doing missions with multiple BS?

How does the aggro mechanic with multiple BSs on the grid?

Tin foil hat, what evidence do you have of this?

Naturally the goons and nullsec zealots work ultra-fast to apply the "tin foil hat" label to anyone who recognizes the smelly **** going on between them and CCP.

Naturally.

Ofc it was, otherwise game players pool would be halved by now. And thou CCP shown some worrying signs of stu..... ekhm naiveness in the past, they aren't THAT stupid. If they see they - or some feature, 'gone too far' i.e. they spitted in their own bowl, they fix it. And I hope CCP will again gain their senses, and also fix with this new changes BROKEN missioning, as this change is nothing but another spit in a bowl.

I think the fact that CCP published damn ****** code, because the deadline loomed, is much more probable than some giant conspiracy, but to each their own..

For what it's worth most of the 'stories' about Eve Online that drag new player's in are from low-sec and null-sec. I can't imagine many player's quitting a different MMO to blow up red crosses or mine grey crosses in high-sec.

From that perspective alone it's in CCP's best interests to get everyone into null... since even they've realized low-sec is a cesspit for anything other than FW. Add the current null-orientated CSM acting as an echo box for the things CCP wants to do anyway... and you've got the perfect storm of "move ALL THE THINGS into null!"

In many ways, this is true. There are areas of 0.0 space where regular owners adhere to strict NRDS rule (not red, don't shoot), however most coalitions closely guard their space and will not tolerate invaders of any sort, even if it's just one ratting ship. That's a null sec problem that CSM failed to recognize in their last document, proposing changes that would favor large groups of players. However, I disagree that there would be any kind of conspiracy going on. CSM is a bunch of null sec players, they see the game from a certain point of view, which is only natural and CCP has gone to great lengths in order to make high sec fun as well. For instance, Retribution's bounty system and aggression flags have nothing to do with 0.0 - over there, you shoot whoever you want to shoot without penalties. In high sec, however...

While we're on topic of null sec, I really love the idea of reworking how information gathering works in null sec. See this thread for an example of a great idea:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47868&find=unread

Now, on to the main discussion in this topic:

As far as drone changes go, I fully support them - a fun, tense fight against, say, 4 ships is far cooler than slaughtering 100 ships from range or afk or whatever. It may not be as profitable, but then, money isn't everything. Imo, missions have too long been seen as just another form of simple isk generation, a combat version of mining, rather than a gameplay of its own (I also agree with CSM's concept of dangerous, but profitable mining; and not just dangerous in form of other players such as 0.0 today, or else you'll have a large alliance close down the bottleneck and players behind it will be as safe as carebears in high sec). I would like to see missions become a viable PvE activity, rather than an isk machine that they are perceived as today and for that, they definitely need better AI. Perhaps then, we'll finally see less of the whole "put the largest guns on your ship so you can kill enemies as fast as possible" and more of "balanced ships for the win" approach.

There are bugs, of course, but those will be ironed out soon enough. It all happened before and it shall happen again ;)

That's pretty much how I've referred to doing them for a long time.
"Gone Mining Serpentis"...

The rest of your post also has merit, and is not a bad repetition like some (note how not all!) of mine.
+1


Yes, well, that way you basically give up on all short range weapon setups (yielding much worse dps, as if you hadn't gimped it already for your tank), and with the EWAR being the way it is, you might just be sitting out at 100 km from rats with a 9 km lock range.

Although you could LXASB +paper tank a ship and do this, scrambling frigs are supposed to kill it.
And there are an unnecessary amount of them compared to how much your ship alone has to take on in a PvP situation, if that is CCP's aim, to make the two more similar.
At the moment, judging from numbers alone, it's like jumping into a gatecamp made by lots and lots of clueless "players".

for those people saying this is some null zealot plot, well....its honestly not, we also got hit by this, the overall changes to NPCs have just made them difficult to kill skewing the gank scaling ratio thats more important in null, running angels anoms in a seriously pimped mach my bounty ticks are now nearly half from before retribution, thats a pretty hefty cut to my income, especially to people (like me) whos sole income is from rat bountys.

Tin foil hat mode activated, i actually think this is some plot by ccp to nerf into the ground the most (really only) viable self sufficent isk making profession, think about it, a serious mission runner/ratt farmer can make enough money on one char to support himself ingame, if this is nerfed (as it has been) it strongarms people to pursue other lines of income such as multi char mining and dedicated RnD/PI alts, all things which generate more RL income for ccp, by dint of they requiring you to buy/upkeep more than one account.

Nope, that room is not proximity agro.
NM it IS proximity.

Also, is it fixed yet?

Lol.

Full room agro every time.