EVE General Discussion

just as the topic title states.... Why all the mega haters seem to be out in force to slate Hi-Sec and the people who choose to dwell here?

i find it very telling how hi-sec systems always seem to be populated with many peeps kicking about doing something useful or the other ... meanwhile look at lowsec sparsely populated also the same for 0.0.

that should speak volumes for the community of haters who seem to get their meat on when it coms to trolling hi-sec peeps and their chosen funtime pastimes.... not to mention CCP staff should seriously take note of this and not keep throwing spanners into trip up the hi-sec community by nerfing level 4's for instance and other issues.

Hi-sec should be given some dev love and encouraged to grow instead of the complete opposite seems to be taking place by certain groups of players and staff.

most people like the resource gathering and the gaining of ingame iskies to spend on the market but it seems to be moving away from that in a big way, its got very clique now a lot worse than it was before when i first started playing eve online, now with level 4's being nerfed to which i feel is just the start of something awful in regards to hi-sec being frowned upon.

they (ccp) should put in more hi sec systems cos to me thats what the populations needs / wants and would be welcomed by the majority.

people should be free to play how they like as long as they obey the rules, and i would certainly do away with non-consensual pvp... its balls most of the time and just shows the predatory / trolling nature of a chunk of this playerbase.

this is not a rant

i would love to hear / read what others have to say.

Im not gonna read alll you post its just too long


But I agree people knock high sec... atleast pvp

When 50% of pvp in low/null is blob fest that take no skill.

High sec on the other hand with war decs takes skill. Mainly small gang.. Add nuetral RR in the mix...


Real PVP is High sec small gang.


Low/Null ***** cause people are carebears in high sec... dont ***** war dec and then they are fair game... there would be no high sec.... oh wait you want it to be safe when its convinent for you bring moon goo up in haulers and ****...

They hate our freedom.

Because highsec is out of whack in terms of what it offers and because a sizeable number of the people who choose to dwell there are actively trying to break the game.

The problem is that highsec has already been given that love and encouragement, and it is proving detrimental to the game as a whole.

What do you base those assumptions on?

i base that on the population in hi-sec.

Some people hate it when others wont play their ideal version of the game.

They're not assumptions. They're an observation of player behaviour and of basic maths regarding how to get the most out of the game.

Even people who would love to spend all their time in null or low choose not to because highsec offers such advantageous capabilities that it would be downright stupid to try to do stuff anywhere else.

No, the players had no hand in this — the fundamental design of what's available did, and there is no way for players to adjust that.

Ok. You do know that there is no statistic for the amount of players who live in different parts of space, right? The supposed highsec majority is a fable born out of a failure to read a simple chart, and there are nothing to back up that assumption. It is just as (or even more) likely that the highseccers are a minority.

…oh, and regardless, there are as many different views of how highsec should work as there are highseccers, so the assumption that this supposed majority also equates to a supposed majority just adds another layer to the fable.

Even though I'm a highsec dweller, I would certainly not "do away" with non-consensual pvp. It's a most essential part of the game.

Please do not try to tell me, how I should play the game. Thank you.

TBH Hisec is fine as it is, it needs neither buff or nerf, the areas of the game that need do adjusting via a buff are both losec and nullsec, it's just plain wrong that a lo or null player can make more Isk in hisec on an alt than they can in the space they would normally occupy, given the potential risk in those areas of space and the resources available. Just to clarify, this character is what many lo and null dwellers detest, a hisec carebear, I do have 2 others, one is also a hisec carebear, the other is a former carebear that's embracing the darkside.

I would like to see changes to mineral content to make mining in lo and null profitable, Scordite being on a par with Arkanor & pretty much every other high end ore is ridiculous. I understand that the PI is considerably better outside of hisec, mining, production, even ratting should be to.

Its very rare for someone to gank just for giggles. And when I say rare I mean as rare as finding a battlebarge activly hunting in low sec.