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The World and its Priorities

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#41 - 2012-12-08 17:42:42 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
cracked.com showed this in the article "15 old photographs that prove the world used to be insane"


Perfectly sane reactions to how unforgiving the world was back then. They had no illusions about their mortality, and would beat you with a cane for just looking at them sideways. You couldn't just let people get away with that stuff or everyone would start circling you like sharks. It was like prison. Or at least how i'm led to think prison is from watching movies.

Now we all have the police to 'protect' us, which actually makes things worse. The evil people hide behind the police, and don't have to worry about their victims retaliating, when they would have just been killed outright by the person or persons they wronged back then.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#42 - 2012-12-08 19:21:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore :(

E:

Re-read Huxley's Brave New World, if you haven't done so recently, funsters. That's where we are now, and aren't we just ******* loving it.

Aren't we, just.

(Any of these utterly ******* repellent "reality-TV star" slags --Kardashian, et al-- would be the RL version of Fanny from the aforementioned book, I think. I'd still happily boink Kate, though.)

E2:

Really? F-a-n-n-y is censored? For ****'s sakes CCP, stop treating us like children!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Jago Kain
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-12-08 19:33:54 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore :(

E:

Re-read Huxley's Brave New World, if you haven't done so recently, funsters. That's where we are now, and aren't we just ******* loving it.

Aren't we, just.

(Any of these utterly ******* repellent "reality-TV star" slags --Kardashian, et al-- would be the RL version of ***** from the aforementioned book, I think. I'd still happily boink Kate, though.)

E2:

Really? F-a-n-n-y is censored? For ****'s sakes CCP, stop treating us like children!


tl;dr

What's on TV?

One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes.

Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#44 - 2012-12-08 19:50:08 UTC
Who needs TV the internet is a far more... interesting place.

Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him?

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#45 - 2012-12-08 21:10:03 UTC
Nylith Empyreal wrote:
Who needs TV the internet is a far more... interesting place.


^^That.^^

I haven't owned a TV in 15 years, and don't miss it in the least.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#46 - 2012-12-08 22:17:39 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:

I haven't owned a TV in 15 years, and don't miss it in the least.


You're fortunate.

Let's assume that you have, somewhere, a TV that you'd never used in 15 years but it physically exists somewhere in your house and is in working condition. How would you like it, that even though you haven't used that TV in so many years -you'd have had to pay @GBP115 (@USD 185 ) annually, simply because it's merely capable of receiving TV broadcasting, funded almost exclusively by the taxpayer -even when turned off. (This also applies to radio and the internet, so subtitute TV for a radio or PC/Mac -they're both still capable of receiving broadcasts from this broadcaster.)


What do you get for your GBP115 annually?

+ No advertising. A good thing, naturally. No, a great thing.

+ Some nice adaptations of victorian literature.

+ Dot Cotton


- "in-house" political bias. Grudgingly admitted even by that self-same broadcasting corporation. They take highly opinionated sides in national politics and international politics equally. If a newsworthy story can be manipulated somehow, they will attempt it. Laughably, one of their big bold 'coups' is 'unbiased reporting'. Rarely subtle, often-times laughably not.

- The threat of a third party company knocking at your door, who'd want to gain admission into your home had you not taken the time to find out that they have no automatic right of admission, to search for your disused TV/radio/PC/Mac. And then try to take you before the beak for non-payment of this 'license fee'.

-Your GBP 115 to the broadcaster has (unintentonally of course) paid, for the greater part, the life-time wages of some of the worst criminal filth (Jimmy So Vile and co. who posed as saints for decades), in recent memory, as it has recently turned out.

Welcome to the Bolshevik Biased Broadcasting Corporation, not-so-cheap for the price of admission. Uncle Joe Dzhugashvili would have, indeed, endorsed this product and/or service.


"Modern Life is Rubbish"

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-12-09 03:19:51 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
cracked.com showed this in the article "15 old photographs that prove the world used to be insane"


Perfectly sane reactions to how unforgiving the world was back then. They had no illusions about their mortality, and would beat you with a cane for just looking at them sideways. You couldn't just let people get away with that stuff or everyone would start circling you like sharks. It was like prison. Or at least how i'm led to think prison is from watching movies.

Now we all have the police to 'protect' us, which actually makes things worse. The evil people hide behind the police, and don't have to worry about their victims retaliating, when they would have just been killed outright by the person or persons they wronged back then.


I just wish to play auto polo Sad

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#48 - 2012-12-09 04:42:35 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I just wish to play auto polo Sad


It does look like the best thing ever.

And people maim and kill themselves all the time in other 'extreme' sports these days. Maybe someone should start up a league. Big smile

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-12-09 04:59:15 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I just wish to play auto polo Sad


It does look like the best thing ever.

And people maim and kill themselves all the time in other 'extreme' sports these days. Maybe someone should start up a league. Big smile


I get to be the guy with the hammer Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-12-09 08:01:07 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I just wish to play auto polo Sad


It does look like the best thing ever.

And people maim and kill themselves all the time in other 'extreme' sports these days. Maybe someone should start up a league. Big smile


I get to be the guy with the hammer Big smile


I'll drive, you hammer.

What number do you want?

"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." - Kenneth O'Hara

"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate

Jago Kain
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2012-12-10 22:59:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jago Kain
Ssakaa wrote:


You're fortunate.

Let's assume that you have, somewhere, a TV that you'd never used in 15 years but it physically exists somewhere in your house and is in working condition. How would you like it, that even though you haven't used that TV in so many years -you'd have had to pay @GBP115 (@USD 185 ) annually, simply because it's merely capable of receiving TV broadcasting, funded almost exclusively by the taxpayer -even when turned off. (This also applies to radio and the internet, so subtitute TV for a radio or PC/Mac -they're both still capable of receiving broadcasts from this broadcaster.)

......


Whilst I do not necessarily disagree with most of the rest of your post (the bits I haven't quoted) some of this is dead wrong.

The TV license is what you have to have, by law, if you receive TV programmes AS THEY ARE BROADCAST in the UK. This includes video recording to watch later, cable TV, satellite TV, streaming live from the internet and any other form of live TV broadcast. They key words here are "live" and "TV".

Mere possession of a device capable of watching live TV does not require a license, only the use of said device to watch live TV.

It is perfectly legal to watch pre-recorded TV programmes (copyright issues aside) on your TV. It is also perfectly legal to stream programmes from the BBC's own iPlayer website (although not as they are broadcast) without a TV license.

Using radio did at one time require you to possess a TV license. Not for a long time has this been the case.

This page will tell you what the BBC spends your license fee on, and if you actually bother to read the appropriate bit, will tell you what you actually need a license for. Near the bottom on the left hand side under "about the license fee". Go have a look; we'll wait.

There is no requirement for you to have a TV license to use the internet. You can listen to radio for free as it is broadcast, wireless or internet. You can use your TV to play x-station (should your IQ be under 80) or as a monitor to stream (non-live) web TV to... none of this needs a license.

What not having a license will get you is regular mail from Crapita (who handle the prole chasing) threatening all sorts of legal action and dire consequences if you don't have a license. Unless you are dense enough to engage with these muppets and write back to them giving them your name, this will usually be adressed to "The Occupier" as they are not legally allowed to go and fish your name off the electoral roll without just cause.

You are right about their rights of access to you property, but I feel that clarification might help for some other folk in doubt as to what these rights are or aren't.

The licensing folk have no right of entry to your property (rented or owned) and have to leave if you deny them what is called "implied right of access". This means simply telling them to "get orf moi laaaand" and back onto the public highway.

The debate over detector vans and the new (well, newer) hand held replacements for these still rages. Some say they apparently they do have devices that can tell what you are watching and pin-point the location of the TV watching it to within 2 feet or so. Others say it's bollocks and the old Commer vans with **** off ariels and "TV Detector Van" they used to use had nothing in them but giggling retards.

Whatever the truth, it's irrelevant. There has NEVER been a prosecution for TV license evasion that has relied on evidence from any detector. Not one. Ever. Even if these devices exist (there is some evidence to suggest that they may once have, but that they only work on cathode ray tech so are useless now) they are not admissible in a court of law and therefore proof of precisely jack ****.

Every single person who has been prosecuted for license evasion has been convicted on the evidence of the guy/gal who comes round to intimidate you who has seen your TV in use through a window from the public thoroughfare (perfectly legal but only really possible in terraces with no front gardens to speak of). A self-incriminating statement will fly in court too, as will being stupid enough to believe that this person has right of access and (horror!) actually letting the parasite in to see your TV in operation.

If, as they are sometimes (very rarely) wont to do, they threaten to come back with a uniformed police officer to gain entry, tell them to do so. Plod may (very unlikely but possible) turn up with them next time, but their function will be to keep the peace only. Plod has better things to do and (mostly) they hate these bastards as much as the rest of us.

If you've got cable/satellite TV you would have an extremely hard time arguing in court that you weren't watching TV as it is broadcast; after all why pay subs for a service you don't use, but past that if you don't give these wankers any information at all they can prove nothing and won't even have enough for a summons.

Never talk to them, never write to them. Never ever let them in (they have no say in this, at all, ever) and you should have no problem. Also never get them wet and never ever feed them after midnight.... or is that policemen? I'm confused now.

I haven't paid for a TV license in over ten years (not since I realised I didn't have to) and I've had no more aggro than the monthly letter (goes straight in the recycling) and a grand total of two door-steppings, both of which have ended in me giggling as I (politely) tell them where to get off.

Of course, despite possessing a TV I genuinely do never use it to watch live broadcasts. I couldn't do that; that would be illegal. Big smile

One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes.

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#52 - 2012-12-11 23:06:21 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I just wish to play auto polo Sad


It does look like the best thing ever.

And people maim and kill themselves all the time in other 'extreme' sports these days. Maybe someone should start up a league. Big smile

The cane fighting looks pretty cool too. An updated version of cro-magnon combat with clubs.

Any updates on Kate? Blink
Mirajane Cromwell
#53 - 2012-12-12 08:39:30 UTC
Jago Kain wrote:
The TV license is what you have to have, by law, if you receive TV programmes AS THEY ARE BROADCAST in the UK. This includes video recording to watch later, cable TV, satellite TV, streaming live from the internet and any other form of live TV broadcast. They key words here are "live" and "TV".

Here in Finland we've had similar law but it's going to change at the start of the next year and by then we all have to pay this new tax that allows us to watch tv - yes, even those who don't own tv will have to pay the tax. The previous tv license method is scrapped completely. So now I'm actually thinking of buying tv because in future I have to pay taxes for it anyway...
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-12-12 08:43:25 UTC
Mirajane Cromwell wrote:
Jago Kain wrote:
The TV license is what you have to have, by law, if you receive TV programmes AS THEY ARE BROADCAST in the UK. This includes video recording to watch later, cable TV, satellite TV, streaming live from the internet and any other form of live TV broadcast. They key words here are "live" and "TV".

Here in Finland we've had similar law but it's going to change at the start of the next year and by then we all have to pay this new tax that allows us to watch tv - yes, even those who don't own tv will have to pay the tax. The previous tv license method is scrapped completely. So now I'm actually thinking of buying tv because in future I have to pay taxes for it anyway...


Here in the US no one cares for such things

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#55 - 2012-12-12 09:02:08 UTC
Once upon a time Mad Max was looking like a bleak future.


Now I can watch it, and The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2 for the rest of you) and think "Hey, at least they have some chance to control their future".


No more electronics? Good. No more news propaganda, electronic voting machines, and surveillance grid.

No more supermarkets? Good. No more GMO, no more poison.

No more hospitals? Good. No more vaccines with cancer viruses and heavy metals in them, no more medical-industrial complex.

No more police? Good - no more thugs with a license to kill doing all of the human trafficking and drug dealing and crimes they claim to "protect and serve" us from, no more risk of being beaten up by one of these fat tax feeders for their own enjoyment and charged with assaulting them.

No more military? Good. No more total war, no more empire, no more DU everywhere.

No more municipal water services? Good. No more sodium flouride making everybody a freaking tard who can put up with everything I already listed.

No more roads? Good. No more central planning and zoning having each half of a county working on the opposite half and making oil barons rich.

No government? Good. No organized crime.

No more EvE Online? So what. In the real world, permadeath will be the end of gate camps and finite resources (without government to aid monopolies) means no more big alliance NAP fest.


The economics of "Mad Max" is widely misunderstood though. Such a condition as depicted would not last forever, so imagine a world without what I have listed, and having it's priorities straightened out, a human race unfettered and free. I see the last of the Interceptors and know that beyond that the future is bright.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-12-12 09:13:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

...
No more hospitals? Good. No more vaccines with cancer viruses and heavy metals in them, no more medical-industrial complex.

...



I for one love the fact that modern medicine and vaccines have given us the lowest child mortality rates in the history of mankind.

But maybe that's just me being a stupid, brainwashed corporate zombie....

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-12-12 09:40:45 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

...
No more hospitals? Good. No more vaccines with cancer viruses and heavy metals in them, no more medical-industrial complex.

...



I for one love the fact that modern medicine and vaccines have given us the lowest child mortality rates in the history of mankind.

But maybe that's just me being a stupid, brainwashed corporate zombie....


Earth recently hit 7b people (or was it 6? Still too much!)

within the next 20 or so years we'll need to cull the herd.... Straight

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-12-12 09:55:41 UTC
Sure....but how are they even supposed to enter Valhalla if you let them die in bed?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-12-12 10:05:53 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Sure....but how are they even supposed to enter Valhalla if you let them die in bed?


You don't... you get out the flintlocks and have a battle royal.

Then make extra monies on snacks

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#60 - 2012-12-12 17:01:08 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

...
No more hospitals? Good. No more vaccines with cancer viruses and heavy metals in them, no more medical-industrial complex.

...



I for one love the fact that modern medicine and vaccines have given us the lowest child mortality rates in the history of mankind.

But maybe that's just me being a stupid, brainwashed corporate zombie....




More kids with cancer than ever. More kids with diabetes then ever. More autism then ever.

Yeah. Ok.

Let me get down on my knees here......


YOU WIN


Ok I will now wait for things to improve.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!