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Tier 3 BC's

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Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
#1 - 2011-10-21 20:02:55 UTC
OK, so they announced they are releasing Tier 3 battlecruisers.

But what the hell does that mean? Are they going to be modular like a Tech 3 Cruiser? Or are they just going to be another "advanced Battlecruiser" type like the command ships?

Anyone have a clue on this?

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2011-10-21 20:06:21 UTC
Tier 1: Prophecy, Ferox, Brutix, Cyclone
Tier 2: Harbinger, Drake, Myrm, Hurricane
Tier 3: xxxxxx, xxxxxx, xxxxxx, Tornado

They're all different tiers of T1 ships.
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-10-21 20:08:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Wylee Coyote
Already been discussed in the tornado thread just below yours.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22628&p=4
Post number 75.


Boodreau wrote:
Details were posted on Eve's facebook page.


Its NOT a battleship, they scaled it back to a Teir 3 battlecruiser. BUT, it fits battleship guns. The draw back is, less tank.




Edit: More bumps/hope for the Mentor
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1496683

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/misc/createastarship/Mentor_Battlecruiser.jpg
dream3874
Tears of Redemption
#4 - 2011-10-21 20:11:38 UTC
So will that mean that we will also see a new tier of T2 command ships? Seeing as though T3's has taken some of the glory of those away?
Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
#5 - 2011-10-21 20:12:55 UTC
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Already been discussed in the tornado thread just below yours.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22628&p=4
Post number 75.


Boodreau wrote:
Details were posted on Eve's facebook page.


Its NOT a battleship, they scaled it back to a Teir 3 battlecruiser. BUT, it fits battleship guns. The draw back is, less tank.


Edit: More bumps/hope for the Mentor
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1496683

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/misc/createastarship/Mentor_Battlecruiser.jpg


So where does that specify if its a modular ship type?

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Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
#6 - 2011-10-21 20:19:08 UTC
Quote:
According to the original concept it was, yes. But when reviewing the armadas of existing ships we came to the conclusion that it would make much more sense to add another tier of battlecruisers instead of a fourth battleship tier, and that the accessibility of bc skills would mean more of these ships might be in the hands of younger, brasher pilots. That means more pew pew pew overall.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3001

... my head is full of ****

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Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2011-10-21 20:20:17 UTC
Pater Peccavi
Shadow Shadow Bo Badow
#8 - 2011-10-21 20:33:30 UTC
Kush Monster wrote:
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Already been discussed in the tornado thread just below yours.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22628&p=4
Post number 75.


Boodreau wrote:
Details were posted on Eve's facebook page.


Its NOT a battleship, they scaled it back to a Teir 3 battlecruiser. BUT, it fits battleship guns. The draw back is, less tank.


Edit: More bumps/hope for the Mentor
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1496683

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/misc/createastarship/Mentor_Battlecruiser.jpg


So where does that specify if its a modular ship type?


TIER 3, not Tech 3. It's not modular.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2011-10-21 20:47:13 UTC
Kush Monster wrote:
So where does that specify if its a modular ship type?


Out of curiosity, where did you get the idea that it might be? Everything points towards it being a tech 1 ship.
laffbot
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-10-21 20:58:55 UTC
to be fair id likemore than a glass cannon teir

Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
#11 - 2011-10-21 21:31:55 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Kush Monster wrote:
So where does that specify if its a modular ship type?


Out of curiosity, where did you get the idea that it might be? Everything points towards it being a tech 1 ship.


Well, I misread Tier and assumed Tech. In conversation with a friend we were discussing what it could and what it couldn't be.

If this is indeed a Tech I ship, hopefully we will see a T2 of it in the future.

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Ikarus Gaul
Russian SOBR
#12 - 2011-10-22 04:02:43 UTC
Kush Monster wrote:


Well, I misread Tier and assumed Tech. In conversation with a friend we were discussing what it could and what it couldn't be.

If this is indeed a Tech I ship, hopefully we will see a T2 of it in the future.



Well, we haven't seen tech 2 variants of the tier 2 battlecruisers (drake, myrmidon, hurricane, and harbinger) ... so I wouldn't hold my breath...
Toros Revoke
#13 - 2011-10-22 04:11:46 UTC
Amarr should definately get the Mentor, we want a vertical hull too!
MukkBarovian
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-10-22 04:14:36 UTC
Ick. There isn't room for a better BC. The Hurricane / Drake are already pushing the boundary of being OP.

I don't see how to make this balanced. Not gonna make a call on whether it will be OP/UP until I know more. Looks like its gonna be hard to get it right though.
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-10-22 05:47:43 UTC
MukkBarovian wrote:
Ick. There isn't room for a better BC. The Hurricane / Drake are already pushing the boundary of being OP.

I don't see how to make this balanced. Not gonna make a call on whether it will be OP/UP until I know more. Looks like its gonna be hard to get it right though.


Final nail in the coffin for tier1 BCs as well.

No sig.

Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#16 - 2011-10-22 06:03:58 UTC
Hatsumi Kobayashi wrote:


Final nail in the coffin for tier1 BCs as well.


Patch is not out yet, we can still push for a tier 1 re-balance!
Lester Knight Chaykin
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-10-22 11:19:47 UTC
Kush Monster wrote:
So where does that specify if its a modular ship type?


WTF are you? An idiot?
It's a TIER 3 not a Tech 3!! That's the answer, what the hell do you need to know more?!
Salvia Olima
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-10-22 11:37:16 UTC
It is a Tornado, a minmatar T3 battlecruiser.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-10-22 11:45:08 UTC
Salvia Olima wrote:
It is a Tornado, a minmatar T3 battlecruiser.


While Tiers 2 Battlecruisers are already way overpowered at the point they can obsolete BS's in many manners and situations, I don't understand the need for those UBBER POWNMOBILES that will probably cost close to BS price, with less tank same guns tracking issues (yeah more transversal= +miss/half hit)

While BS's needed really something like this, the option to fit Capital Guns and get the crap out of capitals/supers, you'd see less of them if those BS's were there.

I'm a BS fan, so sad they're getting nothing else than be even more useless after this.
Jacob Stov
#20 - 2011-10-22 17:28:53 UTC
No issues with the lower tiers, since the tier 3 battlecruisers are meant to fit battleship sized guns.
So it is a tradeoff. Probably more DPS compared to tier 2 but crappy tracking/explosion radius.

I just hope Caldari get a gunship. Or gazillions of medslots for painters.
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