EVE General Discussion

Anyone else have problem with new character and lvl 1 security missions?
Few seconds after i am entering mission pocket ALL npc pirates are targeting me.How can new player survive it?
I dont think that "new npc ai" means that new player have to mine ore or to make delivery mission for a week , until he'll get skill to be able to stand against full pocket agro.

What ship are you flying and how is it fitted?

it is an alt, my third account actually.
the problem is that now all the npc in a pocket agro when you enter a pocket, not like it was before.

Just think about it. Somebody want to try Eve Online. He made his trial account. He made trial missions, which are very easy. He went to npc corp station, got his first lvl 1 mission. Entered mission pocket and got 10 pirates npc on him. Boom, he is i a capsule now :)
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Yep, CCP did NOT think this through even remotely.

The enormous difference in numbers and, consequently, firepower between mission sites and sleeper sites should have been taken into account before implementing such an unnecessary change.

A single Sleeper is somewhat more dangerous than a mission rat, or even a dozen of them with comparable ship types. Once you start working on higher class Wormholes, the Sleepers aren't exactly small in number either. Don't honestly know much about the lower class ones as I never did much in less than C3, and not much at all in either C3 or C4.

Using the new Destroyers for Level 1 missions should actually work well. The Amarr has a good Drone capacity and the Gallente has good Bandwidth. Level 1 Frigs shouldn't have much effect on them if you have Destroyer 3-4 and decent base Drone skills.

The Minmatar should be good to, as a Speed oriented missile boat. Just get an AB and see how it works. Not sure about the Caldari, but I assume it can get a decent Regen and Resist tank and has good missile or rocket use.

I did the SoE Epic Arc solo first thing out of tutorials. Level one missions are not that hard that they won't learn something by failing them, preparing them for next time.

But honestly, maybe it's the cynic in everyone rubbing off on me, but this just seems like a stealthed "complaining about mission ai" thread.

I would run industrials first - you get a free Venture. And we've all seen how capable they are in combat

First of all it's not Sleeper AI.
Only negative thing I've noticed has been in this game always: constant Sansha TD. Because of it now all turret ships are next to useless against Sanshas, especially in level 4 The Blockade where you will get constantly TD'd by 6+ elite cruisers in second wave.

I dont have any problem with my older character and his lvl 4 missions.
It is even better that all npc are gathering around from the begining of the battle, much easier to salvage :)

in this topic we are talking about lvl 1 missions after last patch, just try it with new char.

it is like discussing a book without even reading it...

http://i.imgur.com/qDfBe.jpg

A little tough, but not so bad. Ship damage was 5100 ISK, which was easily covered by the Mission Reward.

The character has 555,033 SP (39 skills), and I haven't transferred anything to him except some skill books. ..not counting the unfinished Destroyers 5 skill which has some 8 days left on it. I haven't paused and restarted it, so it hasn't been accounted for, but doesn't provide any benefit either.

I've also only done the Business and Basic Military tutorials, so aside from not actually being able to afford some of the skills I've injected, (Social, Anchoring, etc..), his primary fit and ship is available through the tutorials.

Of course, it was a lot of Drones, but it was only Drones, and I did have to put some distance on with the AB to give myself time to reload the Cap Booster and rep a few cycles before going back in. Did a Slow orbit of a wreck so they'd all come within range and I wouldn't miss so much with them ending up to far away from my ACs while I was trying to maneuver.

Even with the standard orbit my locks were dropping range to quick, which is why I dropped it to what you see there in the pic. Awkward, but doable, and it actually wasn't required for that mission.

Of course, I also have a level of familiarity many new players won't.