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CCP BunnyVirus

C C P

C C P Alliance

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#21 - 2012-12-07 15:56:28 UTC

Cesar Iulia wrote:

I am a new player (a few months).
I really like the aesthetic side of EVE and its design ... but frankly I do not understand one thing:

but the ships of the Caldari will be updated soon?
I read that they already had restyling V3 ... what?

1) the detail of polygons on Caldari ships is abominable ... very few polygons

2) the details of the texture (Raven, Black Bird, Moa, Kestrel, etc..) Is obscene ... textures are in very low definition ... spread as in the first games of 1998!

3) complete (or almost) lack of lights (headlights and points)

This is not a flame ... just one question ... when will be updated in the TECHNIQUE Caldari ships?

thanks, fly safe!

V3 doesnt mean we did any redesign with them, if we feel that certain ships need a redesign we will do that, but will not give any timeframe for that.

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Warde Guildencrantz

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#22 - 2012-12-07 16:09:15 UTC

1.moa (needs medium to large change)
2.osprey (just a bit of refactoring though, no huge changes)
3.bantam could use a bit of a cooler look
4.condor (you were remodeling it before, use that one you were doing)
5.bit of a fix for the engine on the caracal, more "huge boosters" looking and less "weird tube" looking, as well it needs a cockpit visible
6.blackbird hull could use small changes to make the thrusters less randomly placed and paper looking. Also, blackbird hull looks like a perfect hull for a cockpit like the one on the dragoon (on the side).

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Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy Likes received: 1,267	#23 - 2012-12-07 16:14:25 UTC 2 caldari ships should be more symmetrical and aerodynamic and bird looking T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

Krixtal Icefluxor

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic

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#24 - 2012-12-07 16:24:21 UTC

Harvey James wrote:

caldari ships should be more symmetrical and aerodynamic and bird looking

.......as a side note to the bird thing.......Caldari ships are mostly indeed bird names, even mythologically like the Tengu.

And then there is the Scorpion.

Go figure.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck." - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Warde Guildencrantz

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#25 - 2012-12-07 16:48:12 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Harvey James wrote:

caldari ships should be more symmetrical and aerodynamic and bird looking

.......as a side note to the bird thing.......Caldari ships are mostly indeed bird names, even mythologically like the Tengu.

And then there is the Scorpion.

Go figure.

there is quite a few mythical beast names, or predatory animal names aside the scorpion:

chimera
leviathan
naga
gila
worm (i always thought that it should really be wyrm)
wyvern
basilisk
cerberus
rattlesnake
phoenix
griffin
raptor
kitsune
widow
golem
flycatcher

the only ones that i find out of place are the onyx and the badger (i find these names really fitting though)

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Krixtal Icefluxor

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic

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#26 - 2012-12-07 17:13:35 UTC

Warde Guildencrantz wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Harvey James wrote:

caldari ships should be more symmetrical and aerodynamic and bird looking

.......as a side note to the bird thing.......Caldari ships are mostly indeed bird names, even mythologically like the Tengu.

And then there is the Scorpion.

Go figure.

I was referring to birds (including mythological):

The Flycatcher is a bird. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_World_flycatcher

Raptor refers to birds of prey in general: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_of_prey

The Griffins has 'wings of an eagle': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin

The Phoenix has wings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(mythology)

Some depictions of the Basilisk have wings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilisk

The Wyvern is a winged myth creature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern

So that leaves:

Chimera
Leviathan
Scorpion
Gila
Worm
Cerberus
Rattlesnake
Widow

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JC Anderson

RED ROSE THORN

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#27 - 2012-12-07 17:14:42 UTC | Edited by: JC Anderson

Cesar Iulia wrote:

ShahFluffers wrote:

Ummm... they already have.

The only things that haven't been given the new V3 textures are capital ships, stations, and gates.

have you see the raven or the kestrel?

raven have colorfull pixel.... not a texture.... the new Minmatar ship or the new gallente megathron are both V3 ship.... the raven isn't a V3... that is impossible.

The raven was completely redesigned along with the scorpion. They are both completely different models now and far better than the originals.

And yes they are V3.


JC Anderson RED ROSE THORN Likes received: 1,234	#28 - 2012-12-07 17:21:23 UTC 2 Old Raven New Raven Old Scorpion New Scorpion

Cesar Iulia

La Spada di Damocle

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#29 - 2012-12-07 19:11:29 UTC | Edited by: Cesar Iulia

the basic problem is not having a bad shape instead not have good texture, particle effects (the halos of light present on many ships Minmatar V3) and a range of colors very flat, and a bad performance of the bumb mapping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdl7sInBp9w

BUMB MAPPING ON CALDARI SHIP IS VERY POOR...

Caldari ships have been ignored ... even now we should wait for a hypothetical process V4 to see some improvement and adjustments?

CCP please do something, the aesthetic for me and many noobs and potential buyers is an important factor.

Anyway, noob or not ... I look with interest to the graphics of eve

Funky Lazers

Funk Freakers

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#30 - 2012-12-07 19:23:35 UTC

JC Anderson wrote:

Old Raven
New Raven

Old Scorpion
New Scorpion

So... where's the difference between Ravens?

What I see is they both have one hairy armpit; both of them are anti-aerodynamic and blocky; both of them are asymmetric.

I easily can tell you the difference between new scorp and the old one.
Where is the funkying difference between ravens?

Whatever.

Vertisce Soritenshi

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#31 - 2012-12-07 19:28:15 UTC

I think the current level of detail even on the new ships is too low. I can't stand zooming in because stuff just looks like crap. Windows are very poorly rendered and turret points also look horrible. A round turret point looks blocky with very low resolution detail. There has to be better detail than that.

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Krixtal Icefluxor

INLAND EMPIRE Galactic

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#32 - 2012-12-07 19:31:12 UTC

Funky Lazers wrote:

JC Anderson wrote:

Old Raven
New Raven

Old Scorpion
New Scorpion

Raise your graphics settings above 'none' or 'low', for starters.

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Xercodo

Cruor Angelicus

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#33 - 2012-12-07 19:52:08 UTC

Sadly every ship has really bad bump mapping on certain key places where you can zoom in a lot.

Perhaps this is what you want from them, sadly it hasn't started yet (not until everyone is done being V3ed, and we still have capitals left) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7oaz8mWug

And btw V3 stands for Version 3 shaders, they get updated with new shaders and their textures essentially get doubled in resolution but very few experience any model changes.

The Drake is a Lie

State War Academy Caldari State 861
Charles Case State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 861	#34 - 2012-12-07 20:07:30 UTC 1 Luv Caldari ships. I would fly a box if it has the right bonuses and stats. I am not a pubbie though.

Kristopher Rocancourt

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#35 - 2012-12-07 20:14:09 UTC

Cesar Iulia wrote:

Pyre leFay wrote:

Cesar Iulia wrote:

ShahFluffers wrote:

Ummm... they already have.

The only things that haven't been given the new V3 textures are capital ships, stations, and gates.

Caldari navy is digital camo. working as intended.

Are you kidding me?

http://imageshack.us/a/img252/9518/94501256.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img163/4711/50277970.jpg

that's is horrible.

no sir, what is horrible, is your ability to set your in game settings to HIGH.
p.s. stop playing Eve on a Netbook.

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Kristopher Rocancourt Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 414	#36 - 2012-12-07 20:16:27 UTC 2 Funky Lazers wrote: JC Anderson wrote: Old Raven New Raven Old Scorpion New Scorpion both of them are anti-aerodynamic and blocky; and EVERYONE knows that there is Air in space..... http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Cesar Iulia

La Spada di Damocle

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#37 - 2012-12-07 20:19:41 UTC

Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:

Cesar Iulia wrote:

Pyre leFay wrote:

Cesar Iulia wrote:

ShahFluffers wrote:

Ummm... they already have.

The only things that haven't been given the new V3 textures are capital ships, stations, and gates.

Caldari navy is digital camo. working as intended.

Are you kidding me?

http://imageshack.us/a/img252/9518/94501256.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img163/4711/50277970.jpg

that's is horrible.

no sir, what is horrible, is your ability to set your in game settings to HIGH.
p.s. stop playing Eve on a Netbook.

i play on a quadcore with one GTX560ti... desktop PC. ^^"

you must think before write stupid things ... These screenshots were taken ingame at the highest level of detail .... As you can see the texture of the Caldari are really disgusting.

David Laurentson

Laurentson INC

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#38 - 2012-12-07 21:05:11 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Warde Guildencrantz wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Harvey James wrote:

caldari ships should be more symmetrical and aerodynamic and bird looking

.......as a side note to the bird thing.......Caldari ships are mostly indeed bird names, even mythologically like the Tengu.

And then there is the Scorpion.

Go figure.

Chimera is frequently part Eagle, but yeah. Birds & Mythical Beasts are the Caldari naming theme.

The Gila, Worm and Rattlesnake are all Guristas ships, not Caldari.
The Scorpion is allegedly a Caldari reverse-engineering of a Guristas design: in that light, the fact that the Scorp and it's Black (ops) Widow variant "don't fit" the naming scheme or design aethetics is pretty appropriate.

Eli Green

The Arrow Project

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#39 - 2012-12-07 21:21:28 UTC

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Warde Guildencrantz wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Harvey James wrote:

caldari ships should be more symmetrical and aerodynamic and bird looking

.......as a side note to the bird thing.......Caldari ships are mostly indeed bird names, even mythologically like the Tengu.

And then there is the Scorpion.

Go figure.

Worm, Gila, and Rattlesnake are all Guristas ships and follow the naming pattern of desert animals btw
worm > a worm
Gila > gila monster > mexican lizard
Rattlesnake > obviously

wumbo

Warde Guildencrantz

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#40 - 2012-12-07 21:28:20 UTC | Edited by: Warde Guildencrantz

David Laurentson wrote:

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

well, there's your reason they are differently named, they are reversed from the guristas designs and thus named in a similar beastly kind of way.

I still want more dragon style named ships (naga, drake, leviathan, wyvern etc. all have names that are associated with dragons in general)

particularly amphitere, ouroboros and skultone would be good ones

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