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Highsec "Carebear" representation from the CSM?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#41 - 2012-12-07 18:59:21 UTC
Imports Plus wrote:

She. Issler Dainze is a real girl on the internet. She basically ran as the anti-goon, won and promptly disappeared into obscurity. Didn't even go to the summit and surfaces about once every three months and mutters: "Ring Mining" and then vanishes again.



Proves you are poasting nonsense just to be poasting nonsense.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#42 - 2012-12-07 19:01:13 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
To this day, I still think she had one of the most polished CSM campaign vids of them all.

That does not mean that I actually liked the video though.

http://evajobse.net/TakeCare/movie.php

Her video AFTER that one even had more flash and polish, and was in an office interview sort of set. Can't find link though.



FOUND ! Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJI7bUtKMdg


THATS THE ONE!

The effort put into that is insane, considering what it was for.

LOL At the chimera flying by in the background.


My god, eyes on that man! They are piercing my soul!

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Ginger Barbarella
#43 - 2012-12-07 19:02:07 UTC
High-seccers care more about doing their own thing that needing constant social reinforcement, I think. Dunno, but independence is more paramount to indy folks than a CTA and screaming FCs... Smile

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#44 - 2012-12-07 19:05:38 UTC
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-12-07 19:07:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.

High-sec carebears are already adequately coddled by CCP, therefore they require no representation by the CSM.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#46 - 2012-12-07 19:11:46 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.

High-sec carebears are already adequately coddled by CCP, therefore they require no representation by the CSM.

They need freighters to be buffed.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-12-07 19:12:42 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
They need freighters to be buffed.

Also: MOAR THEMEPARK

CCP has no sense of humour.
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#48 - 2012-12-07 19:17:54 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.

High-sec carebears are already adequately coddled by CCP, therefore they require no representation by the CSM.


They chose not to have more representation. Low sec, null sec, and wormhole space make up a fraction of the players in high sec. Seems that doing things (like voting) is hard.

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.
Imports Plus
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-12-07 19:18:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.


I've never seen it articulated either. I believe it would go something like this:

1. More isk per hour for all PVE activities across the board.
2. Salvage drones (oops already got that)
3. Total protection be it from CONCORD or some other mechanism, inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent.
4. Larger cargoholds so that mining requires less attention (oops already got that)
5. Make rarer commodities from WH or 0.0 space easier to obtain or even be manufactured in high sec.
6. Sever any ties to or make irrelevant WH space or 0.0 to any high sec manufacturer.
7. Nerf bumping or remove the mechanic entirely- this could go hand-in-hand with point 3: inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent.
8. Make suicide ganking nigh impossible.
9. Make freighters impregnable.
10. Make it easier and faster to autopilot from one market hub to another.

Does that cover it? Smile
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#50 - 2012-12-07 19:19:54 UTC
Imports Plus wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.


I've never seen it articulated either. I believe it would go something like this:

1. More isk per hour for all PVE activities across the board.
2. Salvage drones (oops already got that)
3. Total protection be it from CONCORD or some other mechanism, inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent.
4. Larger cargoholds so that mining requires less attention (oops already got that)
5. Make rarer commodities from WH or 0.0 space easier to obtain or even be manufactured in high sec.
6. Sever any ties to or make irrelevant WH space or 0.0 to any high sec manufacturer.
7. Nerf bumping or remove the mechanic entirely- this could go hand-in-hand with point 3: inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent.
8. Make suicide ganking nigh impossible.
9. Make freighters impregnable.
10. Make it easier and faster to autopilot from one market hub to another.

Does that cover it? Smile


No more bounties on anyone for any reason?

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#51 - 2012-12-07 19:26:09 UTC
IIshira wrote:

Is there any representation in the CSM for "Carebears" in highsec?

yeah you elected issler

brilliant choice, that

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#52 - 2012-12-07 19:29:13 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Is there any representation in the CSM for "Carebears" in highsec?

yeah you elected issler

brilliant choice, that

Tell me more about this amazing move by the highsec community.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#53 - 2012-12-07 19:29:23 UTC
Imports Plus wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.


I've never seen it articulated either. I believe it would go something like this:

1. More isk per hour for all PVE activities across the board.
2. Salvage drones (oops already got that)
3. Total protection be it from CONCORD or some other mechanism, inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent.
4. Larger cargoholds so that mining requires less attention (oops already got that)
5. Make rarer commodities from WH or 0.0 space easier to obtain or even be manufactured in high sec.
6. Sever any ties to or make irrelevant WH space or 0.0 to any high sec manufacturer.
7. Nerf bumping or remove the mechanic entirely- this could go hand-in-hand with point 3: inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent.
8. Make suicide ganking nigh impossible.
9. Make freighters impregnable.
10. Make it easier and faster to autopilot from one market hub to another.

Does that cover it? Smile


Interesting that I am a 'high sec carebear" and I think all of these are a bad idea. MAybe your head is screwed on backwards or getting impressions from another universe.

Oh, wait...you have trolled every thread, just about, created today. My bad for thinking you were serious.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#54 - 2012-12-07 19:31:49 UTC
krixtal you should run for the csm next year

i promise i will run the sort of public scortched-earth campaign against you that i ran against issler that got her over the top as the ~antigoone~

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#55 - 2012-12-07 19:34:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
Tippia wrote:
…and to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation.


I think it would mostly revolve around not really adding things so much as just countering the never ending plots to make hisec worse people like yourself constantly come up with.

I mean, out of the tens of thousands of posts you have here, easily 75% are about taking things away from hisec and the 'carebears' which dwell there. If i were a licensed psychologist i could have you and others diagnosed with an obsessive disorder based on that alone.

Meanwhile 0.0 and lowsec remain the places which require attention. And no, just throwing isk at anyone who lives there is not a viable solution. That has been tried and failed countless times.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#56 - 2012-12-07 19:37:46 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
I mean, out of the tens of thousands of posts you have here, easily 75% are about taking things away from hisec and the 'carebears' which dwell there. If i were a licensed psychologist i could have you and others diagnosed with an obsessive disorder.

sure but that's because you'd be an unqualified quack who was handing out diagnoses willy-nilly and who was facing license revocation proceedings as a result

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
#57 - 2012-12-07 19:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Titas Agor
I think the issue lays with how everyone see's EVE has the hardcore MMO, the harshest MMO out there, and the real enjoyment comes from PVP, going out to nullsec, joining alliances, getting your ass handed to you 2 or 3 systems in nullsec or vise versa, whoever has the biggest blob... and untill this line of thinking changes, PVE will always been limted in this game, having a CSM thats focuses on PVE and high sec stuff wont change this if the majority of eve players just simply dont want it...

There are plenty, PLENTY of ways to make high sec PVE a lot less suckage, but its difficult to convince people if no one actually wants it, and just cares about the pew pew side of things rather then having actual real PVE gameplay that adds a lot of diversity to high sec PVE.. For example, instead of having wormholes acting like pockets of 0.0 space, having gone through all the toruble of scanning a WH down, making it so when you jump through, its actually you of your fleets own personal instance, with a time on it to do whatever you want in the time allowed in the new crimewatch timer display, which would be to mine, rat npcs, doing the sleeper complex's, whatever you want, and if your still inside the WH when the timer runs out, it collapse on all of you, so you all die and pod killed, like a black hole if you will, so there is plenty of risk vs reward, and obviously the more you have in the fleet, the more assets you'd be able to bring back with you, but the PVP players would be in an absolute uproar about this because they wouldn't be able to shoot ppl in them anymore... you wouldn't be able to milk the resources in the WH forever with a POS.. but that is just one example of how you could make more PVE meaningfull to players that actually dont like PvP or venture out to low sec or 0.0..
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#58 - 2012-12-07 19:41:39 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:


I mean, out of the tens of thousands of posts you have here, easily 75% are about taking things away from hisec and the 'carebears' which dwell there. If i were a licensed psychologist i could have you and others diagnosed with an obsessive disorder based on that alone.



THIS ^^ is what they will never understand yet they use it as a shield. It's all virtual, therefore 'not real'.

Sorry, but we are all responsible for our actions and opinions, real or virtual, because they can only originate in 'the real world'. Your computer and the EVE software does not invent the crappy ideas. The huuman does. To think otherwise is delusional.

"THANK you for SAYING it."

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Imports Plus
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-12-07 19:42:54 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Interesting that I am a 'high sec carebear" and I think all of these are a bad idea. MAybe your head is screwed on backwards or getting impressions from another universe.

Oh, wait...you have trolled every thread, just about, created today. My bad for thinking you were serious.


Perhaps you would care to articulate the current issues that require development attention for highsec?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#60 - 2012-12-07 19:45:41 UTC
Imports Plus wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Interesting that I am a 'high sec carebear" and I think all of these are a bad idea. MAybe your head is screwed on backwards or getting impressions from another universe.

Oh, wait...you have trolled every thread, just about, created today. My bad for thinking you were serious.


Perhaps you would care to articulate the current issues that require development attention for highsec?


Why would you even be interested ? A Troll only Trolls. So get back to it and find another fool to respond.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882