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The Green Care Bear Button - wtf
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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#1 - 2012-12-05 21:07:49 UTC
This green button is confusing me....safety??

If I put it on red does that make me BAD like in Michael Jackson's song?

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The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2012-12-05 21:13:24 UTC
It doesnt make you bad, just allows you to do bad things, thats all.

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Anstian Egivand
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-12-06 02:13:20 UTC
Red means faster target-boom when ganking in hi-sec without having to click stupid warnings.
Green means less herpderpwhineypetitions that ccp has to deal with in hi-sec from the bears.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#4 - 2012-12-06 13:04:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Haedonism Bot
Putting it on red actually does make you BAD in the Michael Jackson sense of the word, yes.

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Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-12-06 14:56:34 UTC
I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.

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SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#6 - 2012-12-06 16:27:40 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.


Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.

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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#7 - 2012-12-06 16:32:16 UTC
Indeed, I turned mine off only to find it was back on when I relogged....hmmm.

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Cap James Tkirk
TEMPLAR.
The Initiative.
#8 - 2012-12-06 18:01:41 UTC
it does come back on when you log out/in but it has not reset with sessions as of yet which is good so log in turn red and have till next time
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-12-06 18:54:51 UTC
SB Rico wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.


Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.


Fair enough. I don't oppose the idea of having a setting to "lock" the safety in a position. But I don't appreciate some who blame carebears or noobs for the way it is now.

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Dracones
Tarsis Inc
#10 - 2012-12-06 19:28:58 UTC
Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:
Indeed, I turned mine off only to find it was back on when I relogged....hmmm.


Yeah, it really needs to remember what you set it at between logins. That's about the only problem with it.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-12-06 21:05:11 UTC
SB Rico wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.


Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.



In a sense that would be called being "Slow", just saying. CCP has already said they are putting in a option that alows you to save the setting so until then I guess you just have to remember something every time you log in, though that might be too hard for some...

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Melody Cadelanne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-07 03:20:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Melody Cadelanne
Dracones wrote:
Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:
Indeed, I turned mine off only to find it was back on when I relogged....hmmm.


Yeah, it really needs to remember what you set it at between logins. That's about the only problem with it.



Edit - totally missed the post above me addressing that, Roll
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#13 - 2012-12-07 06:58:34 UTC
I like to activate my carebear button when drinking heavily. It makes me invincible!

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Bo Hunt
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2012-12-07 08:26:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bo Hunt
SB Rico wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.


Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.


If the guns didn't shoot in your fight with the safety on, CONCORD would have killed you, the button only stops actions that causes you to become flagged. I can still shoot any valid target that I want. So undocking in a rush to get into a fight usually means that I am not rushing to suicide gank, which if that is what you are doing, that is fine as well I guess. It would just mean that maybe you should just HTFU and L2Gank? Blink
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-12-07 08:29:57 UTC
The Green button does not bug me.

I can still shoot people so I don't see the issue even with the button green. Yes they are war targets.

I do see and issue if your a -5 guy on the way to pop a barge.

Only to be there and not shooting, having forgotten to change it to red. but CCP is going to fix it for them.

People are making mountains out of mole hills.

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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#16 - 2012-12-07 15:26:41 UTC
Wouldn't it also stop you from shooting somoeone in lowsec, when you may or may not care about being criminally flagged?

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SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#17 - 2012-12-07 17:23:05 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
SB Rico wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.


Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.



In a sense that would be called being "Slow", just saying. CCP has already said they are putting in a option that alows you to save the setting so until then I guess you just have to remember something every time you log in, though that might be too hard for some...


I seem to be pointing this out a lot, but if you read the CCP announcement it said persistancy would be done if there was enough feedback to justify it, therefore it is the job of all of us who want persistancy to *****, moan and complain till it is done.

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SB Rico
Sumo Wrestlers
#18 - 2012-12-07 17:25:51 UTC
Bo Hunt wrote:
SB Rico wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.


Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.


If the guns didn't shoot in your fight with the safety on, CONCORD would have killed you, the button only stops actions that causes you to become flagged. I can still shoot any valid target that I want. So undocking in a rush to get into a fight usually means that I am not rushing to suicide gank, which if that is what you are doing, that is fine as well I guess. It would just mean that maybe you should just HTFU and L2Gank? Blink


Your response tells me you spend very little time in low sec, us -10 types in low sec tend to be shooting positive sec people who may not have shot at us yet. In a fleet fight you need fast responses to primaries, in a roam or a camp you need to get the guy locked/pointed fast and first time.

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Heathyr O'Halloran
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-12-08 02:05:02 UTC
What is it all the PVP'ers have been saying to the Mission runners about the AI changes?...oh yeah ------>




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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
#20 - 2012-12-08 19:47:52 UTC
Heathyr O'Halloran wrote:
What is it all the PVP'ers have been saying to the Mission runners about the AI changes?...oh yeah ------>




ADAPT.


What are you suggesting??? I'm not sure what you're implying!

I have lube though.

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