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RvB - Red Federation has been set free
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#121 - 2012-12-07 12:37:04 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Has ?vB made you an offer for the name back yet?

Nope. They have no intention of meeting any ransom demands as a matter of pride.

Btw, are any other NCDot corps planning to leave alliance? Are you guys planning to reform in a new alliance? Because I've got some bad news for you...

Tell me more ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#122 - 2012-12-07 12:41:18 UTC
Haha, GMs renamed my corporation to "RvB - RED FederationSTOLEN0"

But somehow I still have the exact same ticker as "RvB - RED Federation". They put both corps "Red Federation Holding Corp" and "Red Federation" back into the alliance as well.

But here's where things get even weirder. I'm at war with both member corps, but the alliance is in no wars at all, lol.

I've never seen this type of rollback in the history of Eve. I'm impressed

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#123 - 2012-12-07 12:42:45 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Haha, GMs renamed my corporation to "RvB - RED FederationSTOLEN0"

But somehow I still have the exact same ticker as "RvB - RED Federation". They put both corps "Red Federation Holding Corp" and "Red Federation" back into the alliance as well.

But here's where things get even weirder. I'm at war with both member corps, but the alliance is in no wars at all, lol.

I've never seen this type of rollback in the history of Eve. I'm impressed

Mmm, good job there GMs....

Knee-jerk reaction obtained? Op success !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#124 - 2012-12-07 12:48:25 UTC
The Zerg Overmind got the attention he wanted, red fed. got the name back... seems like a win win situation.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#125 - 2012-12-07 12:55:56 UTC
Haha I was going to give the name back. I just wanted to see where the GMs would come down on this issue. And they've set a very interesting precedent here. And their interference has completely scrambled the normal rules and outcomes of ingame mechanics as a result. I honestly don't know what the consequences will be.

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#126 - 2012-12-07 12:56:54 UTC
You killed eve!

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#127 - 2012-12-07 13:22:56 UTC
We had money in the alliance wallet and auto-pay was on. The disbanding was clearly a bug so CCP giving us the alliance back is only proper. It did have the unfortunate consequence of ending the war between Red and Blue, but we'll redec each other as soon as our alliance exec can come online and be back in business within 24 hours
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#128 - 2012-12-07 13:30:23 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
We had money in the alliance wallet and auto-pay was on. The disbanding was clearly a bug so CCP giving us the alliance back is only proper. It did have the unfortunate consequence of ending the war between Red and Blue, but we'll redec each other as soon as our alliance exec can come online and be back in business within 24 hours

No such thing as an alliance wallet. The bills would have been to your holding corp "Red Federation Holding Corp", and the isk would have been in the corp's wallet. While I'm skeptical that you had all your settings configured correctly, I do believe that game bugs could have led to an alliance disband. Especially since it occurred during the downtime, lol

You guys are still in all your old wars too. But it's on a corporate level, not the alliance level. That's part of the impossible chain of events that the GMs have put into motion. Your individual corporations in the restored alliance have outgoing wars, but the alliance has no wars. This is quite literally impossible, and the GMs just broke the sandbox.

I hope I have enough popcorn to last long enough to see where this goes

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Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#129 - 2012-12-07 13:32:09 UTC
yes yes, alliance holding corp wallet. We autopaid the bill correctly from alliance creation until this week. Have fun wearing your tin foil hat if that's what floats your boat.
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#130 - 2012-12-07 13:36:26 UTC
As for the state of Red's wars: Blue shows itself at war with Red (the corp) but not against the alliance and blues and reds cannot shoot each other (get a concord warning). Red the corp shows itself at war with no one under the wars tab. Bit weird but I'm sure they'll sort it.
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#131 - 2012-12-07 13:37:08 UTC
I wonder if GMs can be convinced to restore all the wars, lol

I'm somehow betting not

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Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2012-12-07 13:39:11 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
You guys are still in all your old wars too. But it's on a corporate level, not the alliance level. That's part of the impossible chain of events that the GMs have put into motion. Your individual corporations in the restored alliance have outgoing wars, but the alliance has no wars. This is quite literally impossible, and the GMs just broke the sandbox.


That happens when you mess directly with the database and know almost exactly what you're doing ;)
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#133 - 2012-12-07 13:40:48 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
As for the state of Red's wars: Blue shows itself at war with Red (the corp) but not against the alliance and blues and reds cannot shoot each other (get a concord warning). Red the corp shows itself at war with no one under the wars tab. Bit weird but I'm sure they'll sort it.

Haha that's awesome. Pretty much falls under the "unforeseeable consequences" warning about GMs setting up impossible events ingame. The alliance war state must override the corporation's war state. And you're sure that neither side can shoot each other without being concorded? Because I almost would think that the blue side could shoot the red side without being concorded, but maybe not the other way around

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Sweet'n Buttery Khorne
quickschuh Corporation
#134 - 2012-12-07 13:42:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sweet'n Buttery Khorne
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooo



So much for the 'super villian'.


...snicker...

Edit: I'm brand new to the Reds & currently building stuff so I can have it shipped to RvB land & summarily lose it all (which is how it should be). However it amuses me that just like this character, I can't find any kills for The Zerg Overmind on Battleclinic. So is it safe to presume than that he's just a 'forum warrior'?
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#135 - 2012-12-07 13:44:35 UTC
Sweet'n Buttery Khorne wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooo



So much for the 'super villian'.


...snicker...

I can't stop acts of GM ><

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Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#136 - 2012-12-07 13:44:56 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
As for the state of Red's wars: Blue shows itself at war with Red (the corp) but not against the alliance and blues and reds cannot shoot each other (get a concord warning). Red the corp shows itself at war with no one under the wars tab. Bit weird but I'm sure they'll sort it.

Haha that's awesome. Pretty much falls under the "unforeseeable consequences" warning about GMs setting up impossible events ingame. The alliance war state must override the corporation's war state. And you're sure that neither side can shoot each other without being concorded? Because I almost would think that the blue side could shoot the red side without being concorded, but maybe not the other way around


Yep, I'm sure. We tested it this morning. No one can shoot without flipping a can or otherwise becoming a suspect first.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#137 - 2012-12-07 13:45:17 UTC
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
Professor Clio wrote:
As for the state of Red's wars: Blue shows itself at war with Red (the corp) but not against the alliance and blues and reds cannot shoot each other (get a concord warning). Red the corp shows itself at war with no one under the wars tab. Bit weird but I'm sure they'll sort it.

Haha that's awesome. Pretty much falls under the "unforeseeable consequences" warning about GMs setting up impossible events ingame. The alliance war state must override the corporation's war state. And you're sure that neither side can shoot each other without being concorded? Because I almost would think that the blue side could shoot the red side without being concorded, but maybe not the other way around

Haha, oh that's damn great ~~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal
#138 - 2012-12-07 13:47:22 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
Yep, I'm sure. We tested it this morning. No one can shoot without flipping a can or otherwise becoming a suspect first.

When the GMs interfere... boy do they interfere. At least I never actually disrupted activities ^^

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flakeys
Doomheim
#139 - 2012-12-07 13:50:24 UTC
Sweet'n Buttery Khorne wrote:
The Zerg Overmind wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooo



So much for the 'super villian'.


...snicker...



Tbh it's not about what zerg did anymore but what the GM's did.

He calls it interesting , i'd say that's an understatement.This is the first time i am aware that this type of intervention happends and i can name a good amount of examples where the response would be 'too bad , logs and crap , blabla' while being in the same line of 'misstake/bug' .

But then conspiracy theory or not i know CCP has a hot for some alliances.Most say goons but while i dislike goons big time i'd more go towards the empire caterers like RVB and offcourse E-UNI is way , WAY on the top there.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#140 - 2012-12-07 13:53:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
flakeys wrote:
Tbh it's not about what zerg did anymore but what the GM's did.

He calls it interesting , i'd say that's an understatement.This is the first time i am aware that this type of intervention happends and i can name a good amount of examples where the response would be 'too bad , logs and crap , blabla' while being in the same line of 'misstake/bug' .

But then conspiracy theory or not i know CCP has a hot for some alliances.Most say goons but while i dislike goons big time i'd more go towards the empire caterers like RVB and offcourse E-UNI is way , WAY on the top there.

Heh, ah there's this story about "kenzoku" turning into "band of brothers reloaded" or something? Then getting changed back...

Do recall that the CCP people love to say oh look, RvB, oh look EVE Uni !

It would be ... less than desirable if things caused RvB to turn into Yellow VS Pink. Mind you, the players were adapting just fine, but it ~isn't the sameee~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?