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New explosions in Retribution?

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JeanMichel Bizarre
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-12-01 15:12:35 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
We have a visually dumbed down version of what Eve could potentially be because nulltards like to blob and complain about lag...

true story^^


I beg to differ. I find EVE one of the most visually impressive games around.

Dangerzone

Alexandar Pavlovic
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-12-07 12:35:05 UTC
Finaly saw the new explosions effect and my thoughts are divided:
- I think that new effects are nice but needs to be tweaked and adjusted. From up close they look really nice but from distance they can be easily overlooked (maybe bigger and stronger initial flash would make a difference)
- new explosions are somehow hollow and ned to be more "voluminous" if that would be right word. Like they are missing initial "bang". Work in progress on Fanfest 2012 was what I was hoping for
- also keeping old effects for structures explosion makes overall look and feel inconsistent

I really hope that CCP is going to improve those effects in near future.
All in all, everything else that came with Retribution looks great.
GRIEV3R
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#43 - 2012-12-11 17:59:46 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
CCP Paradox wrote:
Also, you should destroy a Titan. Your eyes may bleed from the prettiness.


I have seen this and can confirm that my eyes started bleeding. We went to the doctor and he told me it was from "all the prettiness". When I told my girlfriend this, she wondered why my eyes never bleed when I see her and then left me.




I'd like to preface this by saying that on the whole I am very happy with Retribution and with all the work that CCP has done since Crucible. You guys rock.

I intend this to be constructive feedback:

I feel like the new ship explosions are underwhelming. Especially the supercap ones.
You've gotta understand - seeing a pretty explosion is one of the most rewarding parts of combat. After all the excitement of a tense PVP battle, seeing the other ship explode in a spectacular fashion is almost its own reward (not quite, but almost).
Even more so, with supers. You remember when the titan blows up in the Tyrannis trailer? It should be like that. A massive 50-km wide fireball with sparks and flaming debris shooting off in all directions. The current supercap explosion just feels really whimpy and underwhelming to me.

I understand that performance is an obstacle to be overcome. I've been on the receiving end of perfectly executed bombing runs that devastated the whole fleet on more that one occassion, and I remember how the screen pretty much froze. Perhaps you could include an "Explosion Detail" setting in the graphics menu, just like shadow quality and texture resolution. That way, people with computers that can handle it could still experience mind-blowing explosions if they want. Cool
Captain Futur3
unLimited eve
#44 - 2012-12-11 18:29:51 UTC
New explosions in Retrbution are some of the worst i have seen in the last 5 years of game developement.
Just think about the visuals you see in Eve in the year 2012 and then think a moment. Just go 5 (FIVE!!!) years back in the year 2007 and search for the game Cryisis so that you get an idea of what was possible 5 years ago.
Dont argue with server side performance now because all visuals are client side.
I also dont want explosions that can mess with Crysis in Eve, but i want something that when it happens, that lets me say WOW! Thats a cool effect. Actually when i notice an explosion in game, i dont even notice it... it just happens but its so fast and unspectacular, that i dont even want to look at it. Thats really disappointing in my opinion.

Just have a look on a game from 2002 (thats a year before eve came out) and tell me how "nice the eve visuals are".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jmjJpy4ubgs#t=88s

I love Eve, but sure not because of the effects in game. There is a TON of potential that CCP is wasting because they have no men (or the wrong) working on this part of the game.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#45 - 2012-12-11 18:35:48 UTC
JeanMichel Bizarre wrote:


I beg to differ. I find EVE one of the most visually impressive games around.


You're bad opinion has been noted
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#46 - 2012-12-11 19:27:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
JeanMichel Bizarre wrote:


I beg to differ. I find EVE one of the most visually impressive games around.


You're bad opinion has been noted

Opinions vary, but I think you'll find that most people agree with him.

That is not to say that there are not area's that could certainly stand improvement, even at the current level of graphics tech being utilized.

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Qaidan Alenko
Eezo-Lution Inc.
#47 - 2012-12-11 19:44:30 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Unless the new ship explosions cause AOE damage, im uninterested.

Sure... nerf drone boats more... Gawd!!!! EvilTwisted
Go ahead... Get your Wham on!!!
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#48 - 2012-12-11 20:08:39 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
JeanMichel Bizarre wrote:


I beg to differ. I find EVE one of the most visually impressive games around.


You're bad opinion has been noted

Opinions vary, but I think you'll find that most people agree with him.

That is not to say that there are not area's that could certainly stand improvement, even at the current level of graphics tech being utilized.


Well then most people are simply wrong... This game is using an extremely dated engine, has small texture sizes, mediocre sound effects, mediocre (at best) graphical effects, very inefficient volumetric rendering... Compared to other 10 year old mmos, eve is fantastic, compared to triple A titles that have come out in the past 3-4 years, this game looks like ass.
Captain Futur3
unLimited eve
#49 - 2012-12-11 20:27:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Futur3
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
JeanMichel Bizarre wrote:


I beg to differ. I find EVE one of the most visually impressive games around.


You're bad opinion has been noted

Opinions vary, but I think you'll find that most people agree with him.

That is not to say that there are not area's that could certainly stand improvement, even at the current level of graphics tech being utilized.


Well then most people are simply wrong... This game is using an extremely dated engine, has small texture sizes, mediocre sound effects, mediocre (at best) graphical effects, very inefficient volumetric rendering... Compared to other 10 year old mmos, eve is fantastic, compared to triple A titles that have come out in the past 3-4 years, this game looks like ass.


He's right. As much as i love Eve, the engine and the visual effects of this game are as old as the game itself (or at least feel like that) and the fact that CCP releases effects that are of such low quality makes me cry Sad

(Just one example: dynamic lightning...)
Sharon Zorajan
Perkone
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-12-12 04:16:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Sharon Zorajan
CCP Paradox wrote:
New explosions are in for Retribution.
In addition to the visual overhaul, they have had significant performance tweaks. Now when an entire fleet burns and dies, it should cause less of a performance hit for your client, while still looking amazingly awesome.
Also, you should destroy a Titan. Your eyes may bleed from the prettiness.



I am so disappointed about the two excuses from your explanation sir:

1,Most of the players have no chance to see the TITAN explosion when they log on game every time ok???(no pilot is going to blow up his TITAN easily to let u see its beautiful explosion not like a small firework) Show off the only beautiful TITAN explosion is not enough although u did a great job on it.(If TITAN's explosion is the same as the BATTLESHIP's then EVE wont go anywhere in the future)

2,All the players could set the graphic options to avoid the hit for the client ,do you think we pay for your game monthly but even cant afford to buy a computer to meet our basic requirement??? we can remove all of the effects from the client setting plz dont forget that!!!

The annoying explosion effects have severely affect my game experience in EVE , I know CCP will neglect our minor players' opinions and I have saw CCP's carelessness about developing this game when the players amount is rising more and more.Maybe it's time to save my money for another game if you still so casual about your production!!
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