Crime & Punishment

And your point is?
I expect nothing else from an 8k ppl alliance than to die everywhere. I don't care about intra-alliance dribble. Why should I? "Someone like me" is obviously not in Goons, and Miniluv are Goons to "someone like us".

All hail The Zerg Overmind!!

GMs have just set "RvB - RED Federation" free.

-3060 trapped players

Is anyone surprised that RvB gets special treatment?

Not at all. I actually expected it to happen sooner.

A bug. I see.

I believe the third method is still valid. We will know for sure if every non-GM'd war is still trapped on the 12th.

I think that between godawful game design and the questionable skills of CCPs programming staff you'll be very lucky to see CCP come up with fixes that actually work to close all of the exploits.

Even if they were closed the core game design behind the current wardec system is so bad that wars will still be an absolute joke. As long as you can enlist allies into a war for trivial costs wars will remain the exclusive domain of dedicated PVP corps and not something that the average highsec corp would even consider. And as long as the costs remain as high as they are they will be limited in accessibility to people regularly make giant piles of isk.

Zerg has done an outstanding job of pointing out the godawful mechanical holes in the war mechanics but the fact still remains that, by design, CCP made war declarations a tool that that people can't afford to use and if you do use it just happens to cut your throat.

You say you want to end high sec griefing yet in the case of my alliance *YOU* are the griefers...how are you trying to get matters resolved when you are snide and unresponsive to all attempts at diplomacy?
We are a mining/indy alliance, do *NOT* actively war dec and do not promote behaviour that could bring wars upon us as everyone knows highsec wars are senseless.
The *only* time we dec is to even the playing field against groups that dec us (which if you had bothered to check the history has only happend twice).
I also happen to know we are not the only carebears you have in your current dec list while your own mission statement clearly states you *ONLY* target pirate/merc/griefer corps & alliances which would imply that you do a bit of research and are selective with the targets you choose.
The truth is you're not, your goal is to have as many active eternal wars as possible and to continue to use exploits as your manner to have fun in the game just like any other griefer corp/alliance.
At least true merc/griefer corps are honest in what they do... and honesty I can respect... what you do, I cannot respect.

Our griefers came to you when they got caught with their breeches down and you took them in and continued the griefing of us for the past month.
You go against yourself by saying you wish to bring attention to the broken mechanics and end highsec griefing yet you are guilty of the same thing you are so-called trying to stop and paint yourself here as being a sort of Robin Hood when you're no better than the thugs you protect.

I dont support what you are doing because it sounds noble on paper but being the true moralfag I am, when you dont do your research and target indy corps/alliances that are already being griefed, you lose any support you would have had from me and others like me.
What good does it do for the whole of EvE and it's community to run off the new players before they even have a chance to start loving the game?
Thats what happens when you target groups like my alliance.

And my apologies for sounding like a whiny little wench... I just wished to point out Dec Shield are not and have not been acting as admirably and honourably as they would like all of you here to believe and are actually griefers themselves that are further contributing to the rising ship and mineral costs by not allowing carebears to get out and seed our markets.

Tears... NOM NOM NOM... Stop Mining and start PEWing .. its way less lame