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Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-12-07 01:47:25 UTC
I said 'they' because I truly do not know if you are "Male" or "Female". There is a fine line between obsession and being diligent.

Example. Where do you draw the line between being a diligent Fan of a Popstar and being a stalker?

I have seen a few people ruin themselves to a obsession, I am just trying to look out for a fellow EvE player by letting them know it is hard to tell if they are just outspoken / "Diligent" or being obsessive.

I am not saying it is bad to voice your hate of someone or someone's play style, I am just saying that when you make threads saying the same thing over and over again as well as posting in the threads of the ones you do not care for saying how bad they are for being themselves it kind of looks bad.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
Frying Doom
#22 - 2012-12-07 01:54:24 UTC
The definition of care bear is simple.

Someone who does not require life validation via a computer game.

They are people not driven by anger, self doubt and they have no need to make others feel as bad.

Or more simply put, they are the people who are not bullied in the work place, so they have no need to bully others.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-12-07 01:58:53 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:

I can also say that this is an inaccurate definition.


I can also say that you are now better informed on the nature of carebearism




your welcome.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#24 - 2012-12-07 02:52:04 UTC
What I find disappointing is getting bounties from some disposable alt character. I mean, c'mon, I don't PvP - the worst thing I can do in retaliation is throw some bounty ISK back at them. But apparently even that is too much to bear for some "mighty slayers of carebears" so now I'm just stuck wondering who the main is hiding behind that annoying bounty-placing alt. Oh well.

This puts CCP in a bind. Either they say that this not what they intended and admit that made a mistake, or they can try to claim such an easily exploitable system was their intention. Either way they've got egg on their face.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#25 - 2012-12-07 02:55:18 UTC
Ritsum wrote:
I said 'they' because I truly do not know if you are "Male" or "Female". There is a fine line between obsession and being diligent.

Example. Where do you draw the line between being a diligent Fan of a Popstar and being a stalker?

I have seen a few people ruin themselves to a obsession, I am just trying to look out for a fellow EvE player by letting them know it is hard to tell if they are just outspoken / "Diligent" or being obsessive.

I am not saying it is bad to voice your hate of someone or someone's play style, I am just saying that when you make threads saying the same thing over and over again as well as posting in the threads of the ones you do not care for saying how bad they are for being themselves it kind of looks bad.


This is an outrageous misrepresentation of my posts. I do not hate the phytoplankton, how silly would that be? Lol

Also, I, like all EVE players, am a guy.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#26 - 2012-12-07 03:01:18 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
What I find disappointing is getting bounties from some disposable alt character. I mean, c'mon, I don't PvP - the worst thing I can do in retaliation is throw some bounty ISK back at them. But apparently even that is too much to bear for some "mighty slayers of carebears" so now I'm just stuck wondering who the main is hiding behind that annoying bounty-placing alt. Oh well.

This puts CCP in a bind. Either they say that this not what they intended and admit that made a mistake, or they can try to claim such an easily exploitable system was their intention. Either way they've got egg on their face.

Alts, always working as intended.

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Frying Doom
#27 - 2012-12-07 03:10:41 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
What I find disappointing is getting bounties from some disposable alt character. I mean, c'mon, I don't PvP - the worst thing I can do in retaliation is throw some bounty ISK back at them. But apparently even that is too much to bear for some "mighty slayers of carebears" so now I'm just stuck wondering who the main is hiding behind that annoying bounty-placing alt. Oh well.

This puts CCP in a bind. Either they say that this not what they intended and admit that made a mistake, or they can try to claim such an easily exploitable system was their intention. Either way they've got egg on their face.

Alts, always working as intended.

I must say I do agree, that alts doing it should be a no,no. You should have to have a minimum 5 mill SP to bounty otherwise its

Cowards, always working as intended.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-12-07 03:37:58 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
What I find disappointing is getting bounties from some disposable alt character. I mean, c'mon, I don't PvP - the worst thing I can do in retaliation is throw some bounty ISK back at them. But apparently even that is too much to bear for some "mighty slayers of carebears" so now I'm just stuck wondering who the main is hiding behind that annoying bounty-placing alt. Oh well.

This puts CCP in a bind. Either they say that this not what they intended and admit that made a mistake, or they can try to claim such an easily exploitable system was their intention. Either way they've got egg on their face.


Just like in real life, these bad men who put out hit-orders do not always do so with their own name and picture attached. I bet most of the people using the anonymous bounties are the carebears next to you, risk aversity and stuff, you know. The evil gankers you so hate do not really need to be incognito, you hate them anyway.
Frying Doom
#29 - 2012-12-07 03:46:15 UTC
SaKoil wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
What I find disappointing is getting bounties from some disposable alt character. I mean, c'mon, I don't PvP - the worst thing I can do in retaliation is throw some bounty ISK back at them. But apparently even that is too much to bear for some "mighty slayers of carebears" so now I'm just stuck wondering who the main is hiding behind that annoying bounty-placing alt. Oh well.

This puts CCP in a bind. Either they say that this not what they intended and admit that made a mistake, or they can try to claim such an easily exploitable system was their intention. Either way they've got egg on their face.


Just like in real life, these bad men who put out hit-orders do not always do so with their own name and picture attached. I bet most of the people using the anonymous bounties are the carebears next to you, risk aversity and stuff, you know. The evil gankers you so hate do not really need to be incognito, you hate them anyway.

Suicide gankers are by their very nature risk adverse or they would be in lo-sec or Null. So while it may be care bears using disposable alts for bounties it is just as likely to be hi-sec gankers.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-12-07 04:07:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Dorian Wylde
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Pitrolo Orti wrote:
I am new to this game and always wonder what carebear means?? Please clarify


Someone who actively avoids losing thier ship in combat.


This is the part that can blow your mind .... carebears PvP too.



The gatecamps that only shoot Industrials and lone combat ships --> Carebears
The wardec corp that only targets purely industrial corps --> Carebears
Nulsec Corps that have Blue Standings with 95% of EvE --> Carebears
etc etc.


I can also say that this is an inaccurate definition.



It's actually the most accurate definition you're likely to see.

Frying Doom wrote:
The definition of care bear is simple.

Someone who does not require life validation via a computer game.

They are people not driven by anger, self doubt and they have no need to make others feel as bad.

Or more simply put, they are the people who are not bullied in the work place, so they have no need to bully others.



Also a very good definition.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#31 - 2012-12-07 04:13:46 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
SaKoil wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
What I find disappointing is getting bounties from some disposable alt character. I mean, c'mon, I don't PvP - the worst thing I can do in retaliation is throw some bounty ISK back at them. But apparently even that is too much to bear for some "mighty slayers of carebears" so now I'm just stuck wondering who the main is hiding behind that annoying bounty-placing alt. Oh well.

This puts CCP in a bind. Either they say that this not what they intended and admit that made a mistake, or they can try to claim such an easily exploitable system was their intention. Either way they've got egg on their face.


Just like in real life, these bad men who put out hit-orders do not always do so with their own name and picture attached. I bet most of the people using the anonymous bounties are the carebears next to you, risk aversity and stuff, you know. The evil gankers you so hate do not really need to be incognito, you hate them anyway.

Suicide gankers are by their very nature risk adverse or they would be in lo-sec or Null. So while it may be care bears using disposable alts for bounties it is just as likely to be hi-sec gankers.


You's profilin', and profilin' is wrong. That's as ignorant as if I said 'miners are by definition risk averse'. Check my losses, I do stupid sh@# with T2 ships all the time. ^_^

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#32 - 2012-12-07 04:27:54 UTC
Dorian Wylde wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Pitrolo Orti wrote:
I am new to this game and always wonder what carebear means?? Please clarify


Someone who actively avoids losing thier ship in combat.


This is the part that can blow your mind .... carebears PvP too.



The gatecamps that only shoot Industrials and lone combat ships --> Carebears
The wardec corp that only targets purely industrial corps --> Carebears
Nulsec Corps that have Blue Standings with 95% of EvE --> Carebears
etc etc.


I can also say that this is an inaccurate definition.



It's actually the most accurate definition you're likely to see.

Frying Doom wrote:
The definition of care bear is simple.

Someone who does not require life validation via a computer game.

They are people not driven by anger, self doubt and they have no need to make others feel as bad.

Or more simply put, they are the people who are not bullied in the work place, so they have no need to bully others.



Also a very good definition.



I don't get it, somehow these carebear forum warriors perform this logic pretzel to figure somehow that gankers and bumpers are the real carebears. Its like hey, that's the derogatory word we came up with to describe you! Come up with your own word!

Then ya got space-psychologists over here calling us all sociopaths... Tisk tisk...

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-12-07 04:31:10 UTC
Buck Badger wrote:
Does anyone have the numbers to show that ganking a fully insured, max yeild fit Mackinaw in highsec is profitable with the highest payout on the bounty?
And if so, does it remain profitable in 1.0 or 0.9 sec?


Insured Mackinaw. Surely you jest.

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Revman Zim
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#34 - 2012-12-07 04:38:05 UTC
Carebear definition...

Someone who does not play EVE Online exactly like the person using the term "Carebear".

Of course, I would like to point out that if we ALL played the game in the same way, EVE Online would be unplayable.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-12-07 04:39:32 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
You's profilin', and profilin' is wrong. That's as ignorant as if I said 'miners are by definition risk averse'. Check my losses, I do stupid sh@# with T2 ships all the time. ^_^


Tech 2 nothing. I got a vigilant for goonfleet secret santa and lost it less than two hours later. Op success :sun:
Frying Doom
#36 - 2012-12-07 05:58:15 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Check my losses, I do stupid sh@# with T2 ships all the time. ^_^

You are by definition a coward.

You choose Hi-sec ganking so you can play big fish. You choose the amount you will lose by what ship you gank in.

By choosing T2 ships you are just showing that you are willing to lose more, when you choose too as you are apparently incapable of doing it more efficiently.

If you were a real PvPer you would be in lo-sec, Null or a wormhole fighting the bigger fish for dominance, instead you are just a sardine pretending to be a shark.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Mr Pragmatic
#37 - 2012-12-07 07:15:10 UTC
Oh Galaxy Pig, when will you learn, you can not stop our surperiour unorganized masses. We will mine you will "attempt" to gank.
But in the end, the carebears of eve shall prevail and make eve the theme park it should have always been. and soon you shall see your asteroid of tears will be depleted. Yeeeeeeaaah.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#38 - 2012-12-07 07:29:47 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Pitrolo Orti wrote:
I am new to this game and always wonder what carebear means?? Please clarify



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Anonymous Fighter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-12-07 11:18:48 UTC
If you are looking for some juicy mining targets to gank, I spent all day yesterday (and a great personal fortune) placing bounties on hulks/macks/retreivers/procurers... orcas in Chemilip and Afivad.
Standard bounty was 15m but if they whined in local it went to +30m or their corp got bounties.

Please come gank these guys, I love the evmails that bounties have been collected!!
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#40 - 2012-12-07 11:26:16 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Galaxy Pig wrote:
Check my losses, I do stupid sh@# with T2 ships all the time. ^_^

You are by definition a coward.

You choose Hi-sec ganking so you can play big fish. You choose the amount you will lose by what ship you gank in.

By choosing T2 ships you are just showing that you are willing to lose more, when you choose too as you are apparently incapable of doing it more efficiently.

If you were a real PvPer you would be in lo-sec, Null or a wormhole fighting the bigger fish for dominance, instead you are just a sardine pretending to be a shark.


I never claimed to be a shark, not even a sardine. Check my posts and you'll see that I have, on more than one occasion, likened myself to the noble krill. The krill is far from an apex predator in the ocean, in fact it's very near the bottom of the food chain, but it is one step above you, the phytoplankton. If the phytoplankton in the ocean could talk, I'd imagine they too would hurl bitter insults at the krill, who perform the thankless job of bridging the gap between base-level autotrophs such as yourself, and higher order predators like the whale.

It is understandable, as our two occupations are by nature adversarial. But, allow me to ask you a serious question:

If everyone decided that to be "real PVPers" and earn your respect they had to move to null, then who would try to kill you? Now, really think about this one for a moment. If we are in agreement that nowhere past the undock should be safe, then it falls on someone to make it that way does it not? Who's going to try to kill you?!?

"Well, no one." you might say.
This is simply unacceptable in EVE Online. So, while you're right that a player like myself might be better suited out in null among my own kind, someone has to kill carebears, and since it's just the kind of guy I am, I accept the responsibilty.

Highsec is owned by players now. Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com