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CCP, you are taking away the meaning of the (Wanted) sign!

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#21 - 2012-12-07 07:08:20 UTC
I kind of agree with the general jist of what the OP is getting at here. The new bounty system is awesome, and i think it kind of loses its awesomeness by being so universal. Literally, everyone will have one soon enough. The extra 20% isk from kills will just become a fact of life. All of new eden is going to be wanted!

Perhaps there should be a benifit to having a high sec status. Those that have gone to the trouble to build it up to maximum maybe should be immune to bounties? Or have a cap? Afterall, now there isn't any point to having a high sec status now, at all, it's been made completely redundant.

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And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Vixen Soul
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-12-07 07:10:55 UTC
Merovee wrote:
I don't think small bounties should have a wanted sign. I think most of the bitterness will go away. I think Wanted should scaled and colored to the size of bounty.

Small yellow WANTED = a bounty over 500M isk
Medium orange WANTED = a bounty over 5B isk
Large red WANTED = a bounty over 50B isk

Corps
y = 5B
o = 50B
r = 500B

Alliances
y = 50B
o = 500B
r = 5T

BearIdea


I completely agree with this. I hope they do this soon.

SoulCreative
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-12-07 07:38:13 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
I kind of agree with the general jist of what the OP is getting at here. The new bounty system is awesome, and i think it kind of loses its awesomeness by being so universal. Literally, everyone will have one soon enough. The extra 20% isk from kills will just become a fact of life. All of new eden is going to be wanted!

Perhaps there should be a benifit to having a high sec status. Those that have gone to the trouble to build it up to maximum maybe should be immune to bounties? Or have a cap? Afterall, now there isn't any point to having a high sec status now, at all, it's been made completely redundant.


That isn't going to happen and isn't happening now when the novelty of putting bounties is still high. Most bounties seem to be too low for that and you need constant upkeep on those bounties to keep them there. The current bounty placement trend is all about playing with a new mechanic and having a few lols with your spare change.

High sec status does have benefits, but it's mostly for buffer right now. It could use additional functions, but bounty limitations shouldn't be one of them. A high sec status is just a game mechanic and has little relevance to how good your character is. It just means you grind NPCs more then you kill people in empire.
Methelic Mahyisti
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-12-07 07:44:14 UTC
I agree with OP; it's a bit stupid. Bounties should be on criminal and dangerous people, not innocent industrialists.


Lilly Becky
Miner in a Venture


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So stupid
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-12-07 07:54:18 UTC
Vixen Soul wrote:
Hi CCP!

I have a small complaint. I don't like that everyone is spamming eachother with very small amount of bounty. Now everyone has Wanted signs on them. It's cool that people have a bounty on them, but the wanted sign used to say, hey watch out this character might be a little more dangerous and you should be careful with this person. Now all [wanted] means, in my oppinion, is that some noob spammed a 100k bounty on him as a joke.


It would be great with an option to customize the requirements for wanted logo to be shown, i guess some players are only interressed is find players with a high bounty, while other would like to avoid players with a low security standing.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Trdina Rasputin
Man-dingo
#26 - 2012-12-07 07:54:42 UTC
Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
I agree with OP; it's a bit stupid. Bounties should be on criminal and dangerous people, not innocent industrialists.


Lilly Becky
Miner in a Venture


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So stupid





You forgot that you can be WANTED by some criminal. Bounty hunters do not work for police all the time. You have that kind of stuff in one movie :D
Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-12-07 08:38:35 UTC
The 'Wanted' sign never meant anything to anyone.

All it ever meant was you could kill yourself with an alt and collect some free rage-money.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#28 - 2012-12-07 11:33:41 UTC
We're all capsuleers, so we belong to an elite group anyway. It's only natural that we all be "wanted", unlike the plebs that never leave a station, or the grunts on the ground...
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#29 - 2012-12-07 11:38:38 UTC
This would imply the "Wanted" tag ever really had a meaning. Whenever you see someone with it, you just assume they used a alt to put it on there.

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#30 - 2012-12-07 11:43:41 UTC

Posting in a stealth honey trap thread to make people post the fact they don't have bounties so the OP can bounty them

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-12-07 11:51:59 UTC
So now all of a sudden the old bounty system was something other than what it was.

You never flew around EVE and saw people with "wanted" tags on them, never, and you know it.

Being wanted never meant anything, and you know that as well, as does everyone.


Some of you are so worried about having a bounty on you that you're going so far as to rewrite history now.

Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-12-07 11:54:04 UTC
Trdina Rasputin wrote:
Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
I agree with OP; it's a bit stupid. Bounties should be on criminal and dangerous people, not innocent industrialists.


Lilly Becky
Miner in a Venture


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So stupid





You forgot that you can be WANTED by some criminal. Bounty hunters do not work for police all the time. You have that kind of stuff in one movie :D

What the **** do we care about reality for, TV is so much more interesting.

I too want to live in a pop culture reality, but I don't know what drugs to take.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#33 - 2012-12-07 12:01:51 UTC
Well if you don't want a bounty I can show you how to stop people from being able to place a bounty on you. You can try it on me, I have effectively stopped all further bounties from being applied to my character. EvE mail me and I'll let you in on the secret.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#34 - 2012-12-07 13:02:19 UTC
Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
I agree with OP; it's a bit stupid. Bounties should be on criminal and dangerous people, not innocent industrialists.


Lilly Becky
Miner in a Venture


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So stupid
That industrialist is not innocent, to the person who placed the bounty. Security standing with Concord is irrelevent, as it's player driven not NPC.

I will agree on one thing though, the new wanted sign sucks and the old one was far better. Big smile

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CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2012-12-07 13:06:07 UTC
Methelic Mahyisti wrote:
I agree with OP; it's a bit stupid. Bounties should be on criminal and dangerous people, not innocent industrialists.


Lilly Becky
Miner in a Venture


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So stupid


How are you defining who is innocent? Is an alliance leader that's never fired a shot but orders thousands of players to go out and kill others innocent? How about the industrialist that builds guns? The definition of innocence is one that I don't want to tie to a single mechanic. You people decide who you think are innocent and who you think are not.
flakeys
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-12-07 13:06:14 UTC
I agree , i worked my ass off to go below -5 just to get a cool bounty on my head and a nice wanted sign and then i had to sec grind ALL the way up.All this just to get it removed by ccp a few days ago because EVERYONE deserves the notable wanted sign.


THEY DO NOT , becoming 'wanted' takes work and effort ...... damn you CCP , damn you.Give me back my meaningfull 'wanted' tag NOW.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2012-12-07 13:40:20 UTC
flakeys wrote:
I agree , i worked my ass off to go below -5 just to get a cool bounty on my head and a nice wanted sign and then i had to sec grind ALL the way up.All this just to get it removed by ccp a few days ago because EVERYONE deserves the notable wanted sign.


THEY DO NOT , becoming 'wanted' takes work and effort ...... damn you CCP , damn you.Give me back my meaningfull 'wanted' tag NOW.


How a bout a "Wanted for LULZ" and a standard "Wanted for Crimes" sign (in connection with your sec.).?

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Alua Oresson
League of the Shieldy
SLYCE Pirates
#38 - 2012-12-07 13:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Wumpscuut Embryodead wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:

How are you defining who is innocent? Is an alliance leader that's never fired a shot but orders thousands of players to go out and kill others innocent? How about the industrialist that builds guns? The definition of innocence is one that I don't want to tie to a single mechanic. You people decide who you think are innocent and who you think are not.



*snipped deleted post* - CCP Eterne


What is naive is trying to get rid of a new tool that the developers have given us in the sandbox. The entire idea of a sandbox is that the creators give us tools to use as we see fit. The purpose isn't to define what is and isn't proper. I have to hand it to CCP, I dismissed the impact that the new bounty system would have. I have to say that I really do enjoy it. I still wish they had or would add an add bounty button to the forums though. They should know by now that some of the best parts of Eve are played outside of the actual game environment.

Also, could someone see what OP's current bounty is? I know I added 10 million to it last night and brought it up to 11 million. That is when the OP stopped posting. Is it more than that now?

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Nyaris Wolfe
SHUT UP SEV
#39 - 2012-12-07 13:45:10 UTC
Another day another "omgbountysareworthless"thread. The novelties not actually worn off yet folks, you actually have to wait for it to do that

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-12-07 13:46:01 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
Wumpscuut Embryodead wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:

How are you defining who is innocent? Is an alliance leader that's never fired a shot but orders thousands of players to go out and kill others innocent? How about the industrialist that builds guns? The definition of innocence is one that I don't want to tie to a single mechanic. You people decide who you think are innocent and who you think are not.



*snipped deleted post* - CCP Eterne


Actually, it would be more naive to assume that bounties are something that a criminal can't place on you just because you looked at him funny.

A "bounty" is just another word for a "price on your head". The police might offer a bounty to hunt down a suspect of parole violation, or a criminal might put a price on someone's head for, as stated, looking at him funny. It doesn't matter what the reason behind the bounty is, the fact is that you should be as much of a target for the criminals as much as they are a target for the police, if for no other reason than you might be producing a product that they want the market for, and you're in their way.

Or... you might have looked at him funny.

It doesn't matter, players, even criminals, have always been able to kill you. They've even been able to offer rewards for doing so. What do you think Hulkageddon was, a tickatape parade? The new bounty system doesn't make you any more or less fair game then you already are every time you undock, except now it's formalised in such a manner where, at the very least, you can bounty anyone you want to as well. For whatever reason you like.

Even if someone looks at you funny.

But it is naive to think that bounties aren't placed on people who have done nothing wrong nearly every single day. That brave girl Malala has a bounty on her, thanks to the Taliban. Do you think she deserves it? I've got half a billion on me thanks to a forum argument. Oh many lulz have been had watching people try to claim it in high sec and get concorded because they forget that bounties don't equal kill rights.

Anyway, be careful about throwing words like naive around, especially when it's done so naively Roll

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