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How to fix eve and stagnated 0.0

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JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-12-06 22:44:39 UTC
Remove all supercarriers and titans ( there should be end game toys but lets be honest those two failed to deliver gaming experience )

Give us mobile cyno jammer and cyno jammer stationary bubble.

Cut all ehp of soverenity structures by half.

Simple.

Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-12-06 22:48:50 UTC
The only part of Nullsec that is stagnated is Goonswarm and pets space. The rest of it changes all the time. Not sure what your issue is...

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-06 22:49:41 UTC
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Serptimis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-12-06 22:51:32 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.

But I want to thank you now!
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#5 - 2012-12-06 22:53:01 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.


Thank you.

The Tears Must Flow

JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-12-06 22:53:04 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.


Nerfing hi sec wont make it since 0.0 is now becoming one blue space.

Big alliances can easily avoid all fights just to bring overwhelming amount of supercaps to conquer any sov unless stop by another blob.





Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-12-06 22:55:13 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
The only part of Nullsec that is stagnated is Goonswarm and pets space. The rest of it changes all the time. Not sure what your issue is...

thats why we keep invading the rest

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-12-06 22:55:34 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.


Nerfing hi sec wont make it since 0.0 is now becoming one blue space.

Big alliances can easily avoid all fights just to bring overwhelming amount of supercaps to conquer any sov unless stop by another blob.






yeah uh that doesn't happen since titan tracking got nerfed into the ground

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-12-06 22:56:15 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
The only part of Nullsec that is stagnated is Goonswarm and pets space. The rest of it changes all the time. Not sure what your issue is...


And half the time it changes hands, we probably had something to do with it.

In the past year we have taken, dropped and then helped retake Delve. We also waged war in Branch and Tenal. We just finished up a in Tribute and Vale.

Nullsec isn't all that stagnant, which is surprising given how much it takes to takes to take sov.
InternetSpaceJesus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-12-06 22:57:07 UTC
How about a reform to sovereignty? If you actually had to maintain it somehow to keep it. If a small alliance could actually take parts of a larger alliance's territory by attacking systems that the larger alliance doesn't maintain. I don't know about you guys, but I would love if some version of this was implemented. Oh, here is Jester's post arguing for it, he is much better than me at describing it. Honestly I think this idea is awesome. Jester:Tug of War Sov.

I make meth to fund my internet spaceships.

Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-12-06 23:00:06 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.


Nerfing hi sec wont make it since 0.0 is now becoming one blue space.

Big alliances can easily avoid all fights just to bring overwhelming amount of supercaps to conquer any sov unless stop by another blob.






yeah uh that doesn't happen since titan tracking got nerfed into the ground



Legendary nullsec tactician JitaPriceChecker2 doesn't let facts get in the way of its grand plans.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2012-12-06 23:00:10 UTC
InternetSpaceJesus wrote:
How about a reform to sovereignty? If you actually had to maintain it somehow to keep it. If a small alliance could actually take parts of a larger alliance's territory by attacking systems that the larger alliance doesn't maintain. I don't know about you guys, but I would love if some version of this was implemented. Oh, here is Jester's post arguing for it, he is much better than me at describing it. Honestly I think this idea is awesome. Jester:Tug of War Sov.

Good thing our allies tend to live in their space then.

I love the idea of having roams to bite off little bits of, oh,.. wait I can't say NC. anymore, and -A- is HBC business, er... well whoever I guess. Any non-blue really.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-12-06 23:00:13 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2
Weaselior wrote:
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.


Nerfing hi sec wont make it since 0.0 is now becoming one blue space.

Big alliances can easily avoid all fights just to bring overwhelming amount of supercaps to conquer any sov unless stop by another blob.






yeah uh that doesn't happen since titan tracking got nerfed into the ground


What ? No.

You can kill supers only by overwhelming amount of other supers and subcap fleet if supers have no defence, but ...
The best defence of supers against subcaps are slowcats which can only be killed by more supers .

It is a vicious circle with only one possible outcome.

You either bring equal or more force , or dont bother at all since it is obvious suicide. That kind of game is boring for both parties... unles someone is connected to RMT , then current status QUO suits him.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#14 - 2012-12-06 23:02:11 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:

Nerfing hi sec wont make it since 0.0 is now becoming one blue space.

Big alliances can easily avoid all fights just to bring overwhelming amount of supercaps to conquer any sov unless stop by another blob.

yeah uh that doesn't happen since titan tracking got nerfed into the ground

Legendary nullsec tactician JitaPriceChecker2 doesn't let facts get in the way of its grand plans.

Yeah, it's ok, they probably don't realize that we tried to help EVE, but it's too late, sadly, we can't help nibbling on the edges. And then opps, another group just lost their sov.

I want to thank supercapital pilots for making the business of shooting structure faster, if not necessarily more fight-y.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-06 23:05:08 UTC
Serptimis wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Nerf high-sec into the ******* dirt. EVE fixed. You can thank me later.

But I want to thank you now!


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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-12-06 23:16:18 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
The only part of Nullsec that is stagnated is Goonswarm and pets space. The rest of it changes all the time. Not sure what your issue is...

Sorry for effectively defending our territory :(

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#17 - 2012-12-06 23:17:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
The problem is that 0.0 was placed in control of the players.

If it's broken, you know who to blame. If it needs fixing, you know who to ask. If they won't listen, and they won't, then there isn't anything you can do.

You have to remember the real metagame underlying the nullsec mentality*. It isn't about nullsec vs hisec, or this alliance vs that alliance. The real battle has always been Players vs CCP. CCP makes the systems to be balanced. Players look for ways to unbalance, exploit and eventually break those systems for personal gain.

* To be fair, it's not just nullsec people who think like this, but it's obvious that they have the largest demographic per capita. Hisec, by it's nature, has a lot more rules & restrictions - so many in fact that the residents rarely see any point in trying to "game the game"

Point being: Asking CCP to fix hisec is a paradox, because any fixes would require new rules applied in nullsec. Nullsec and new rules are like Somalia and effective government. Regardless of whether it or not they need it, they're not going to want it... and they'll just complain no matter what you do. They like their feudalism under the guise of anarchy. And if they've all put big "Keep Out" signs with their gate camps and sov rules, well, that's just the kind of people they are.

I look at most nullsec alliances like hornet nests. They hate & attack everything except their own species that happens to wander too close to their nests. So I just stay away from their nests. I'm just glad that there is a place called "hisec" where the angry hornets aren't allowed to spread their nests.

Though it interesting to watch from a safe distance...

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

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Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-12-06 23:22:10 UTC
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