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Should you be able to dock after you get flagged as suspect?
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Taltin Arnerette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-06 22:08:10 UTC
if you are allowed to dock what is to stop people from just getting kill rights on their main with an alt or a corp mate then selling them for 1mil+ and having some one buy it and just docking, then wait out timer and undock again for some one else to buy timer...

as it stands now people can buy the kill rights and flag some one get into a limited engagement, who ever was flagged docks changes ships and comes out to kill whoever has a engagement timer on them

I just think if you are flagged a suspect you should not be able to dock. for the 15 mins you are flagged





just a thought
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-12-06 22:12:35 UTC
maybe you shouldn't buy killrights on someone sitting on a station

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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#3 - 2012-12-06 22:13:04 UTC
Sure, 4m isk an hour sounds like awesome income.
batowarrior
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-12-06 22:14:24 UTC
Lol. What's up taltin!?
Emu Meo
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-12-06 22:14:25 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
maybe you shouldn't buy killrights on someone sitting on a station


Exactly. This came up the other day also. Anyone who is dumb enough to buy kill rights without first getting intel on the target deserves to be scammed.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-12-06 22:15:09 UTC
Yes you should.
Docking is already handled by other flags, and those effects being separated from the “bad guy” flags is a good thing.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#7 - 2012-12-06 22:22:00 UTC
So you basically want anyone with a suspect flag to be guaranteed a loss then, yes?

Are we also removing CONCORD with a change like this, or do you just want all your bases perfectly covered?

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Taltin Arnerette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-12-06 22:22:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Taltin Arnerette
batowarrior wrote:
Lol. What's up taltin!?

not a lot just doing the bombers bar thing :-p


Destiny Corrupted wrote:
So you basically want anyone with a suspect flag to be guaranteed a loss then, yes?

Are we also removing CONCORD with a change like this, or do you just want all your bases perfectly covered?


remove concord they just get in the way, wouldn't bother me


I don't buy the kill rights, I m just laughing at the guys who do buy the kill rights and don't pay attention when the kill rights change to 100mil

and was trying to think of a way for being flagged to be more dangerous
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2012-12-06 22:25:49 UTC
Taltin Arnerette wrote:
and was trying to think of a way for being flagged to be more dangerous
Everyone in the universe being allowed to shoot you at will is pretty much the exact level of danger they were aiming for…

…so why is more needed?
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-12-06 22:31:58 UTC
I do think their should be a 30 sec timer if you choose to go suspect, stealing from cans and all.
Just so we can actually shoot you.

That or use the same thing in whs that prevents you from using the same hole thrice.
I like this one more as it is not as arbitrary while allowing tactics.
Taltin Arnerette
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-12-06 22:38:23 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
I do think their should be a 30 sec timer if you choose to go suspect, stealing from cans and all.
Just so we can actually shoot you.

That or use the same thing in whs that prevents you from using the same hole thrice.
I like this one more as it is not as arbitrary while allowing tactics.



yea the 15 min timer not being able to dock may be a little harsh but again I still think you should not be able to be flagged then dock up right when you get flagged
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#12 - 2012-12-06 22:39:08 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Considering that I'm already well below -5.0 sec-status (and thus listed as "KOS" by the whole of New Eden), I become amused every time someone activates their killrights on me. Especially so when there is no one around to "exact justice." Lol

How did you Veterans start?
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#13 - 2012-12-06 22:56:16 UTC
Scamming is the only thing this new system is good for anyway. The majority of players with kill rights on them are outlaws anyway.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-12-06 22:57:34 UTC
First off..."suspect" does not mean "criminal". They are a suspect but no proof has been given. It's a game mechanic...I know...but thats how it is.

Secondly...I was sitting off Jita station for several hours last night watching people undock or warp in and get insta-locked and popped by the people camping the station. I doubt your concern is much to worry about.

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