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Introducing the New Order

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Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#1 - 2012-12-06 15:30:52 UTC
Capsuleers,

Many of you may already have heard of the New Order of High Security Space. Some of you have not. In any case, the Order has yet to be publicly announced in the Intergalactic Summit, so, as an Agent of the Order, I am taking it upon myself to introduce it. Feel free to ask questions; my fellow Agents and I shall do our best to answer them.

What is the New Order?


To put it simply, the New Order is a group of capsuleers who believe in the principles put forth in the New Halaima Code of Conduct, as set down by the Lord and Saviour of Highsec, James 315. The Code, and the Order, transcends corporations, alliances, coalitions and empires. All of lawful New Eden (defined as those systems where Concord operates) falls under our rule.

James 315 and the Agents of the New Order believe that capsuleers everywhere should not focus only on personal profit, but also on doing their best to improve the community of New Eden and to raise the standard of living of your average capsuleer - to become 'good people', if you like. We take the view that many capsuleers could improve themselves simply by being held to a higher standard of conduct. The New Halaima Code of Conduct provides that standard - and the New Order enforces it.

The New Order is, of course, a democratic organisation. The Code was written and agreed to by the entire community of New Highsec. Of course, it would be impractical for tens of thousands of capsuleers to collaborate on one document, so James himself, in his position as elected Savior and Representative of Highsec, acted as a proxy when drafting the Code.

How does the New Order affect you?


If you are already a good and upstanding member of the capsuleer elite, then the New Order will hardly affect you at all - other than in enforcing similar standards for everyone else, which should cause a noticeable improvement in your life as a capsuleer.

If you do not already, then the New Order expects you to follow the values outlined in the [url=http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.htmlNew Halaima Code of Conduct[/url]. In brief, this involves respect for all fellow capsuleers, not engaging in activities to excessiveness - we want well-rounded people in our systems - and keeping your public communication clean and decent. You are required to accept all the lifestyles that a capsuleer might potentially follow, from suicide warfare to joining a militia to upholding the Code itself.

If you are one of the many capsuleers who reside exclusively in low- or null-security space, then the Code is not enforced, as such. However, the New Order still recommends following the Code, as you will find yourself becoming a better person overall and an asset to your community.

How can you aid the New Order?


  • Become an Agent.
  • The most direct way that you can aid the New Order of Highsec is to become an Agent and uphold the Code yourself. This involves everything from forcefully moving the ships of Code-violators to debating the intricacies of the Code with people who are unsure, to performing Concord's duties in destroying criminals themselves. As an Agent, who can expect to travel New Eden, visit all four empires and see multitudes of different types of capsuleers. Ships and ammunition are often subsidised by the New Order, and you can expect to make a profit from the fees taken from violators of the Code.

  • Become a Shareholder.
  • For those of you who have more ISK than time, you too can support the New Order by purchasing shares. Shares cost no more than one million ISK each, and all proceeds go to the Savior of Highsec to support his rule. Shareholders are publicly recognised as contributors to the cause, and are also permitted to take part in Shareholder Votes (one share is equivalent to one vote), which display the truly democratic nature of the Order in voting on tricky interpretations of the Code as well as future New Order policies.



    Thank you. Please feel free to ask any questions that you feel I have not sufficiently answered.
    Silas Vitalia
    Doomheim
    #2 - 2012-12-06 15:49:12 UTC
    The Irony of someone from your organization calling for Order of any sort is hilarious.

    Unless that 'order' consists of more displays of dozens of text phalluses in local comms when your members pass by, as I've seen more often than not.

    But, best of luck with the whole endeavor.


    Sabik now, Sabik forever

    Quinzel Nikulainen
    Kokako Acquisitions
    #3 - 2012-12-06 16:07:40 UTC
    Very nice write-up but I along with Silas, as well as many more I'm sure, am aware of the very decadent nature of your organisation.

    But, as long as it keeps you away from State creches...

    Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

    Sepherim
    Imperial Shipment
    Amarr Empire
    #4 - 2012-12-06 16:16:56 UTC
    I'm curious to know how you intend to enforce that code of yours. Secure space is watched over by CONCORD, and they don't consider an offense violating the code. And I don't think you're planning on facing their warships just so you can punish someone who bad talked anotherone. So, how do you intend to enforce it?

    Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander

    Innocent Mind
    Alexylva Paradox
    #5 - 2012-12-06 16:29:48 UTC
    Sepherim wrote:
    I'm curious to know how you intend to enforce that code of yours. Secure space is watched over by CONCORD, and they don't consider an offense violating the code. And I don't think you're planning on facing their warships just so you can punish someone who bad talked anotherone. So, how do you intend to enforce it?


    I bet they'll put bounties on people.
    Emily Florence Nightingale
    Viziam
    Amarr Empire
    #6 - 2012-12-06 16:38:34 UTC
    yawn!!!

    I think you're only "enforcing" your law in high sec, cos A. you're to scared to leave. B. You know you can do nothing in low sec or 0.0 and C. you're insane.
    Silas Vitalia
    Doomheim
    #7 - 2012-12-06 17:15:53 UTC
    Emily Florence Nightingale wrote:
    yawn!!!

    I think you're only "enforcing" your law in high sec, cos A. you're to scared to leave. B. You know you can do nothing in low sec or 0.0 and C. you're insane.


    They are not 'scared,' I can confirm that much.

    Be weary though, for even a thousand idiots with guns can occasionally point them in the same direction to devastating effect.

    Sabik now, Sabik forever

    Gussarde en Welle
    Aliastra
    Gallente Federation
    #8 - 2012-12-06 17:43:36 UTC
    I like the idea. It doesn't have much in the way of legs for lowsec though.
    Khazarn Areth
    Viziam
    Amarr Empire
    #9 - 2012-12-06 18:04:27 UTC
    Emily Florence Nightingale wrote:
    yawn!!!

    I think you're only "enforcing" your law in high sec, cos A. you're to scared to leave. B. You know you can do nothing in low sec or 0.0 and C. you're insane.


    It would seem that the answer is a mixture of A and B.

    Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

    Andreus Ixiris
    Center for Advanced Studies
    Gallente Federation
    #10 - 2012-12-06 18:10:41 UTC
    Such things have been tried before and all of them failed miserably.

    Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

    Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

    Andreus Ixiris > ...

    Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

    Kainotomiu Ronuken
    koahisquad
    #11 - 2012-12-06 18:29:04 UTC
    Silas Vitalia wrote:
    The Irony of someone from your organization calling for Order of any sort is hilarious.

    Unless that 'order' consists of more displays of dozens of text phalluses in local comms when your members pass by, as I've seen more often than not.

    As I said, the Order transcends corporations and alliances. The actions of my organisation are in no way linked to the actions of the New Order.

    Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:
    But, as long as it keeps you away from State creches...

    I'm very sorry, but I'm not quite sure what you're referring to.

    Sepherim wrote:
    I'm curious to know how you intend to enforce that code of yours. Secure space is watched over by CONCORD, and they don't consider an offense violating the code. And I don't think you're planning on facing their warships just so you can punish someone who bad talked anotherone. So, how do you intend to enforce it?

    The Code can be enforced in a number of ways. Non-Code-compliant miners, for example, can be forced out of mining range by repeatedly hitting their ships with your own. More serious criminals can be punished by blowing up their ships.

    And yes, we are willing to face Concord's punishments in the name of enforcing the Code.

    Emily Florence Nightingale wrote:
    I think you're only "enforcing" your law in high sec, cos A. you're to scared to leave. B. You know you can do nothing in low sec or 0.0 and C. you're insane.

    We've chosen Highsec because that's where the highset concentration of capsuleers is. Quite simply, that's where we can make the biggest difference.

    Andreus Ixiris wrote:
    Such things have been tried before and all of them failed miserably.

    With that attitude, the New Order would fail too.
    None ofthe Above
    #12 - 2012-12-06 22:56:09 UTC
    Khazarn Areth wrote:
    Emily Florence Nightingale wrote:
    yawn!!!

    I think you're only "enforcing" your law in high sec, cos A. you're to scared to leave. B. You know you can do nothing in low sec or 0.0 and C. you're insane.


    It would seem that the answer is a mixture of A and B.


    Paradoxically, I am going with all of the above.

    The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.

    Khazarn Areth
    Viziam
    Amarr Empire
    #13 - 2012-12-06 23:31:24 UTC
    Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:

    Sepherim wrote:
    I'm curious to know how you intend to enforce that code of yours. Secure space is watched over by CONCORD, and they don't consider an offense violating the code. And I don't think you're planning on facing their warships just so you can punish someone who bad talked anotherone. So, how do you intend to enforce it?

    The Code can be enforced in a number of ways. Non-Code-compliant miners, for example, can be forced out of mining range by repeatedly hitting their ships with your own. More serious criminals can be punished by blowing up their ships.

    And yes, we are willing to face Concord's punishments in the name of enforcing the Code.



    Suicide ganking and bumping I think the baseliner herd call it.

    How long do you think you can keep such a programme of mundane aggression and general asshattery going? a week? a month?
    Your fellow corporation members and their allies will grow tired before much of a dent is made, we've seen this all before.

    Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood

    MisterNick
    The Sagan Clan
    #14 - 2012-12-06 23:33:38 UTC
    Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
    all proceeds go to the Savior of Highsec to support his rule


    Always a good way to run one's democracy Roll

    "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."

    Akrasjel Lanate
    Immemorial Coalescence Administration
    Immemorial Coalescence
    #15 - 2012-12-08 09:53:39 UTC
    This New Order is irrelevant.

    CEO of Lanate Industries

    Citizen of Solitude

    Kainotomiu Ronuken
    koahisquad
    #16 - 2012-12-08 11:42:15 UTC
    MisterNick wrote:
    Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
    all proceeds go to the Savior of Highsec to support his rule


    Always a good way to run one's democracy Roll

    Naturally, much of the money is returned to the citizens via bounties on insubordinates and subsidising ships.

    Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
    This New Order is irrelevant.

    I'm so sorry to hear you say that.
    Lailoken Emrys
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #17 - 2012-12-08 20:21:55 UTC
    Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
    MisterNick wrote:
    Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
    all proceeds go to the Savior of Highsec to support his rule


    Always a good way to run one's democracy Roll

    Naturally, much of the money is returned to the citizens via bounties on insubordinates and subsidising ships.

    Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
    This New Order is irrelevant.

    I'm so sorry to hear you say that.


    But you are.

    "We're going to break CONCORD laws to uphold our own, because we want to help you by spitting in the face of your freedom. Also, we will act without checks or balances."

    Give me a break. And I tohught I was a foolish idealist.
    Merdaneth
    Angel Wing.
    Khimi Harar
    #18 - 2012-12-08 22:00:44 UTC
    Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
    Capsuleers,
    . The Code, and the Order, transcends corporations, alliances, coalitions and empires. All of lawful New Eden (defined as those systems where Concord operates) falls under our rule.


    The Scriptures, the word of the Empress and laws of the Empire all overrule your puny code.

    Additionally, with its supposed democratic principles it stinks of Gallente influence.

    If you had been a citizen of the Empire, I would have reported you for blasphemy.
    Nick Bete
    Highsec Haulers Inc.
    #19 - 2012-12-09 00:06:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Nick Bete
    What a florid bit of sickly sweet prose for such a putrid pile of crap.

    You people are common griefers who choose to bully unarmed and unorganized miners who mean you no harm and who refuse to bow to your extortion demands. Know that bounties work both ways and that sooner or later your victims will bond together, rise up and terminate your reign of terror.
    John Caligan
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #20 - 2012-12-11 21:02:08 UTC
    Highsec is a big place, my friend. And not all of it appreciates random people cutting into their profits. And if it gets bad enough, the powers that be might see fit to get involved.

    We'll see where your Savior is, when that happens.
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