EVE General Discussion

This wont happen. As long as ships cost isk, and ships can die, and isk can be lost, somone will always be there to sound the siren on the Waaaaaambulance.

Do not fly a ship you cannot afford to lose, Eve rule number 1. That applies to skills too, not just isk.
The skill loss on T3's was designed so they would happen. The big expensive awesome ship is designed to have a drawback adding an element of risk to piloting it. People were ejecting before it popped, which removed that risk element, so CCP have fixed that and put the risk back in.

Much of this. But then we have to start explaining to some people when you get volleyed in some fleet battle it's not about 1 or 2 k dmg incoming but more of 20K+ so this changes absolutely nothing for T3 fleets and the fact T3 fleet pilots are used to loose that SP and prepared to do it again.

Now for the solo guy James is absolutely right, many players new they could avoid the SP loss and at some point even if they haven't lost one yet this announcement might have an effect on their future ship choices, which is silly you tell me, but this is more like to happen.

I wasn't so much comparing the effectiveness of T3s vs. HACs but moreso the new revamped T1 cruisers that are almost better in every way with a worse resist profile (30m fitted vs a 200-300m fitted) than HACs which with the new tiericide changes will hopefully getting love in the not so distant future. T3's while I enjoy flying them, can compliment HAC doctrines well, but only in limited niche roles.

In NullSec with no learning implants, losing a SS skill level doesn't bother me at all; I imagine most Wormhole Dwellers feel the same, and if you're living in Empire space, complaining about skill point loss in your +5 clone, I don't think anyone gives a toss about your opinion.



This is what happens when changes are implemented with no regard to how it affects other areas of game play. The only thing you can really do to prevent it is to shoot down bad ideas on features and discussions and talk to your favorite devs on Twitter (which seems to be a better and more interactive field for constructive feedback).

The second part of that typically requires you to be more knowledgeable than an actual dev, in a polite manner without sounding like a raging idiot, so 90% of the people here should probably not try it- but if you can back up your argument with game knowledge, mechanics and sound reasoning the devs are pretty receptive to your ideas.




This isn't a solo game.

If that's the playstyle you enjoy, by all means have at it. Just stop crying and whining all over the damn place when you are having a difficult time fighting 'ze blob'. Regardless of how you choose to play, the skill point loss is level across the board, and the only people actually slighted by this are Wormhole Dwellers.

While I don't currently reside on 'Theorycraft' Mountain, I understand the stress of level 5 subsystems for WH life due to PvE/PvP within a single ship class, but that being said, have SS skills at 4 (for the modicum of time it takes to get them back to 5) only marginally effects the efficiency of the ship. The only exception to this might be the Proteus Engineering SS Skill if you have bad support skills.

The vision for a game can change over the years, and the desirability of certain mechanics wax and wane internally. This isn't even some phenomenon unique to EVE. Dig up developer blogs and posts over the course of any long running MMO and you'll find a ton of contradictions and hypocrisy.

The bottom line is, minds change and CCP isn't oath-bound to stick to their original plans. Deal with it. T3 fleets freaking sucked anyway.

"abloobloobloo they took away the ability to put my T3 in an orca in range of a hisec gate whenever the fight isn't 100% in my favor"

you are have never been outside of your basement do you?

Lie-ing is pretty normal in this World (and i mean RL not some online game). Just get used to it and learn to detect. Nothing interesting