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Salvage drones, working as intended?

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Landrae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-05 06:08:43 UTC
So I picked up some salvage drones and the skill book for my noctis and after using the to clean angel forsaken hubs I noticed a couple things.

1. You cant bind the salvage command to a key like when you tell drones to attack.

2. Salvage drones as I understand as supposed to be like mining drones and just salvage your wrecks until their is nothing left within range to salvage, yet they salvage one target then wait for me to click to tell them next one to get.

Now is this a bug or working as intended?

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Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#2 - 2012-12-05 06:10:00 UTC
I noticed the same thing as 2. I had to give them the command to salvage, even in the wreck-infested area that is CA1 on the test server.

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Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
#3 - 2012-12-05 06:22:23 UTC
Patch notes says they can be automated to salvage everything around, however I can't find how to do that...
is this a bug, or it has tu be set up as some advanced option somewhere?...
Landrae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-12-05 06:26:51 UTC
Kiwis23 wrote:
Patch notes says they can be automated to salvage everything around, however I can't find how to do that...
is this a bug, or it has tu be set up as some advanced option somewhere?...


People Ive talked to said if your drones are set to aggressive it should work automatically but for a fair number of people it doesn't.

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Pyre leFay
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-12-05 06:27:04 UTC
They only auto salvage your wrecks. not all wrecks. you need to specifically order them to salvage a wreck you don't own.
Landrae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-05 06:28:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Landrae
Pyre leFay wrote:
They only auto salvage your wrecks. not all wrecks. you need to specifically order them to salvage a wreck you don't own.


In my case they were salvaging my wrecks, but still having the same problem.

Edit: even tried abandoning wrecks to see if that worked, to no avail.

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Kiwis23
Kiwis Corp
#7 - 2012-12-05 06:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiwis23
Well, I have them set on agro, wrecs belongs to my corp. Tried abandonging them, still won't salvage automaticly...

Edit - shortcut for attack does not work to salvage either... have to right click drone menu and click salvage for every single target.
That's a major fail.
Manes Avatarr
Superfast
#8 - 2012-12-05 07:16:26 UTC
We definately need salvage-command shortcut for new dronez.
BTW Drones will continue to salvage if you dont have any wrecks locked and just give salvage order to drones.

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Guy Waldroop
Backwater Resources Outer-Space Surveillance
#9 - 2012-12-06 05:59:03 UTC
Just tested these out on Gone Berserk and some belts.

For "abandoned" wrecks you'll need to lock the wreck and then right ciick > salvage (unnghgh)

With nothing locked they will salvage continuously (on your wrecks) but they have to return to "deposit" the salvage each time. This just seems incredibly inefficient. It takes 5 drones to carry one charred micro circuit? Come on lil guys bulk up!

The best use of them is to augment your noctis, you can fit more tractor beams and just let the weak little dumpster divers loose on the pile as you bring it closer to the ship. It makes for a little easier salvaging which was always fairly click intensive.

Also it would make sense if they went for the closest wreck to your ship, now the selection seems almost random. They pick a wreck at 65km, then 16km, then 50km etc etc.

But can't we code to let them salvage until, at the very least, each one of them is carrying a piece of salvage??

I also agree we need to hotkey "salvage."
Ronan Connor
#10 - 2012-12-06 08:47:41 UTC
I have drones at "aggressive". Nothing. I send them, they salvage, come back, dump and go idle.

Until they salvage on their own they are useless except maybe as a emergency salvaging when you just have a drone bay but no slot for a salvager left.
Seline Taal
Taal Order
#11 - 2012-12-06 09:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Seline Taal
EDIT , Realised the fix was posted above

You can send just 1 drone to each targetted wreck but its manual, works faster that way though in the end
Ronan Connor
#12 - 2012-12-06 09:09:09 UTC
Seline Taal wrote:
EDIT , Realised the fix was posted above

You can send just 1 drone to each targetted wreck but its manual, works faster that way though in the end

Did that as well. Does change nothing to a situation where you can use a noctis, not even compared to a salvacane or a salvadestroyer. To be mildly useful you would need at last a keybind, but then the game would be turned into a clickfest, whereas the summer games on the C64 with a joystick would look like an intelligent game.


Doddy
Excidium.
#13 - 2012-12-06 09:15:48 UTC
Ronan Connor wrote:
Seline Taal wrote:
EDIT , Realised the fix was posted above

You can send just 1 drone to each targetted wreck but its manual, works faster that way though in the end

Did that as well. Does change nothing to a situation where you can use a noctis, not even compared to a salvacane or a salvadestroyer.




Pretty sure they are not meant to be used in a situation where you can use a noctis .....
CCP Paradox
#14 - 2012-12-06 09:18:14 UTC
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though.

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Landrae
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-06 10:05:50 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though.


Thank you Paradox for the update I had wondered about the corp member wrecks as well recently. I know you guys have alot on your plates with the new expansion in bugs and quirks to work out but it makes me happy to know you are aware of the issue and working on it. Big smile

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Ronan Connor
#16 - 2012-12-06 10:14:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Ronan Connor
Thx, that would explain quite alot. I saw the "salvage" in the sub menu but I think we were all using it the same like "engage target" with locked wrecks before.

Will try that now.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-06 10:27:51 UTC
I've just been out salvaging and I've noticed all this stuff, but I tried something different this time. I launched drones when I arrived on station and told them to "salvage" before I locked anything up. They went off on their own merry way, sometimes splitting off to salvage different wrecks, while I went after the ones they didn't with my Noctis' tractor beams.

One thing I've noticed which is a bit of a boon is that they have a longer range than tractors, so you can send them after wrecks that are out of range of tractor beams while you focus on the ones that are in range. They effectively increase the reach of the Noctis which I find makes salvaging go a lot quicker, especially after missions like The Blockade or In The Shadow of War.

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Ronan Connor
#18 - 2012-12-06 10:35:50 UTC
Ok now i did that, and it does work that way.

Unfortunately the "new AI" isnt as smart as to split themselves to a single wreck each. Besides that its funny that they have to unload every single salvage. Cant they manage 10 or 100 pieces until they return?
CCP Paradox
#19 - 2012-12-06 10:37:07 UTC
They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful.

That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-12-06 10:53:10 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful.

That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P


That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it.

See what I did there? Blink

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