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New Bounties: A time to ease up on concord?
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Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-12-06 01:50:00 UTC
With the onset of retribution I can't help but feel that this system is lackluster at best. Yes some epic stories will be told, but for most people it will be business as usual.

I think this opens up a great opportunity for CCP...

Ease up on concord, make it easier to kill people and get away in highsec.


(Silly Idea:
Concord Tracking: he longer you stay undocked from a station or from activating agtes, the longer time it takes for Concord to respond if you do something bad. This would not only make it easier to gank people in highsec, but it would help expose pirates :D)

Eve is all about removing as much Dev involvement as possible, this new bounty system seems like the first step of many to removing concord (or at least it should be ;)

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Ishmael Hansen
Renegade Revenge Technologies
Solyaris Chtonium
#2 - 2012-12-06 01:51:49 UTC
lol, mOo
Wattkins
Sol Industries
#3 - 2012-12-06 01:52:39 UTC
no
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#4 - 2012-12-06 01:54:13 UTC
What's the problem, scared to hunt down PvP players? P

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#5 - 2012-12-06 01:56:02 UTC
I'm also hoping this will one day be possible. It won't be soon, though. Bounty and kill rights won't be able to compensate alone. I think a solid wardec system and properly taxing NPC corps would be needed as well
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#6 - 2012-12-06 02:03:15 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
I'm also hoping this will one day be possible. It won't be soon, though.


Spoiler: It will never happen.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-06 02:12:45 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
I'm also hoping this will one day be possible. It won't be soon, though.


Spoiler: It will never happen.


That's what I love most about eve, it's not about IF it will happen, it's about WHEN :) Could be 30 years from now but, for now, it's a step in the right direction.

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Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-12-06 02:13:58 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
What's the problem, scared to hunt down PvP players? P


I'm not exactly sure where you got that impression, but from I figure PvP players don't enter a fight unless they know their gonna win...

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#9 - 2012-12-06 02:15:35 UTC
I'd say go to low and nullsec, but i'm sure your idea of PvP is where people don't shoot back, right?

You might as well argue for the complete removal of highsec!

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-12-06 02:17:02 UTC
High Sec gankers would cry too much if they didn't have Concord controlling initiative so they can calc their I-Win loot.
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-12-06 02:18:37 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
I'd say go to low and nullsec, but i'm sure your idea of PvP is where people don't shoot back, right?

You might as well argue for the complete removal of highsec!


This isn't about making it easier to pirate... well it is. But for the sake of more pirates to kill!

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Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-12-06 02:20:19 UTC
Also there is no such thing as "HUNTING" pvp players, you just group up in a fleet undock at the same time and send out a scout, avoiding anything you can't kill and heading to anything you think you can.

"Hunting for things that can't shoot back" is very similar to "Hunting for things that have no chance of winning"

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#13 - 2012-12-06 02:25:15 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
's what I love most about eve, it's not about IF it will happen, it's about WHEN :) Could be 30 years from now but, for now, it's a step in the right direction.


CCP really does seem to want hisec to be a sort of starting zone for new players, or a place for people that are more concerned with things other than PvP. There will always be PvP there of course, but the real PvP zones are supposed to be lowsec and 0.0, so you shouldn't hold your breath that hisec will accommodate PvP players very much.

Instead of the problem being CONCORD or whatever, the real issue is lots of PvP players never move on to those places where the real PvP happens, and instead want hisec to change to suit them.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-12-06 03:48:00 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:

Ease up on concord, make it easier to kill people and get away in highsec.



Why do you want all carebears to quit eve and CCP to go bankrupt? Or, if CCP manages to hang on despite massive revenue drop, why do you want high sec to be as empty as low currently is?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#15 - 2012-12-06 04:06:12 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:

Ease up on concord, make it easier to kill people and get away in highsec.

Why do you want all carebears to quit eve and CCP to go bankrupt? Or, if CCP manages to hang on despite massive revenue drop, why do you want high sec to be as empty as low currently is?

EVE is Dying - I Was There

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-12-06 04:14:18 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Keith Planck wrote:

Ease up on concord, make it easier to kill people and get away in highsec.

Why do you want all carebears to quit eve and CCP to go bankrupt? Or, if CCP manages to hang on despite massive revenue drop, why do you want high sec to be as empty as low currently is?

EVE is Dying - I Was There


Is your problem reading, or reading comprehension? I did not say EVE is dying. I said that removing CONCORD would cause EVE to die, or at a minimum, make high sec as empty as low sec currently is.

There was a highly conditional clause to statement about EVE dieing.

Why is low sec empty? No CONCORD. How to make high sec as empty as low sec currently is? Remove CONCORD.

So, the question stands, why you want the carebears to quit playing killing EVE, or at a minimum, make high sec as empty as low sec currently is? How is the game improved by emptying high sec of carebears?

Hint, you will NEVER convert carebears into PVPers. All you can do is remove them from the game by denying them a responsible opportunity to be a carebear. How is the game improved by mass unsubs and crashing CCP revenue?
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#17 - 2012-12-06 04:23:17 UTC
Lowsec is empty because it's crap. Few want to live in space that is the bastard middle child between high and null. Last I checked WH space was doing decent and it doesn't have concord.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#18 - 2012-12-06 04:50:03 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Why is low sec empty? No CONCORD.

Nope

It's actually quite safe to fly around and pve in low if you're not an idiot
TharOkha
0asis Group
#19 - 2012-12-06 05:20:21 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:


This isn't about making it easier to pirate... well it is. But for the sake of more pirates to kill!


yes, yes... "kill all beavers, save the trees".Roll. We all know this is just stupid demagogy. You want to remove hisec... i say : null/lowArrow .....that way

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-12-06 05:23:41 UTC
Not so sure about no CONCORD but an impossible to evade, always show up and 1 shot everyone CONCORD is just as bad.

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