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Thorax's fourth med slot

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Vixorz
Cabronazos
#61 - 2012-11-29 11:28:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Vixorz
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[Thorax R, Shield LSEx2]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

It almost can fit Ion's, changing scrambler with meta 4 CPU fits, the only problem is PG that is overloaded just by 0,39%... so implants :)
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#62 - 2012-11-29 11:38:07 UTC
People don#t plate ruptures, they shield buffer them and fit lots of damage and projections. Yea, im sure a 1600 plate rax would beat a similarly fit rupture: But that's because the rax is a close range slugger. The rupture has the range advantage, so why would it fit plates and try to get close to any cruiser?
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#63 - 2012-11-29 14:15:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mizhir
Vixorz wrote:
Like this?

[Thorax R, Shield LSEx2]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

It almost can fit Ion's, changing scrambler with meta 4 CPU fits, the only problem is PG that is overloaded just by 0,39%... so implants :)


Ditch the 2nd LSE and fit bigger guns. A shield thorax is meant to kite so it need the neutrons to actually shoot furthere than scram range. It also needs a disruptor rather than a scram.

[Thorax, Shield Thorax]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

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Roderick Grey
Koenigsbergers
#64 - 2012-11-29 14:46:47 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Vixorz wrote:
Like this?

[Thorax R, Shield LSEx2]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

It almost can fit Ion's, changing scrambler with meta 4 CPU fits, the only problem is PG that is overloaded just by 0,39%... so implants :)


Ditch the 2nd LSE and fit bigger guns. A shield thorax is meant to kite so it need the neutrons to actually shoot furthere than scram range. It also needs a disruptor rather than a scram.

[Thorax, Shield Thorax]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5





Heat sinks on the Thorax? Noice.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#65 - 2012-11-29 15:02:27 UTC
Roderick Grey wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Vixorz wrote:
Like this?

[Thorax R, Shield LSEx2]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

It almost can fit Ion's, changing scrambler with meta 4 CPU fits, the only problem is PG that is overloaded just by 0,39%... so implants :)


Ditch the 2nd LSE and fit bigger guns. A shield thorax is meant to kite so it need the neutrons to actually shoot furthere than scram range. It also needs a disruptor rather than a scram.

[Thorax, Shield Thorax]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5





Heat sinks on the Thorax? Noice.


Haha, same mistake twice in a row. :S

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Perihelion Olenard
#66 - 2012-12-05 19:34:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Perihelion Olenard
Nevermind, the armor fit I posted melts and dies in seconds.
ISVRaDa
Iberians
#67 - 2012-12-06 04:10:30 UTC  |  Edited by: ISVRaDa
Mizhir wrote:
Vixorz wrote:
Like this?

[Thorax R, Shield LSEx2]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

It almost can fit Ion's, changing scrambler with meta 4 CPU fits, the only problem is PG that is overloaded just by 0,39%... so implants :)


Ditch the 2nd LSE and fit bigger guns. A shield thorax is meant to kite so it need the neutrons to actually shoot furthere than scram range. It also needs a disruptor rather than a scram.

[Thorax, Shield Thorax]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5



This one is the best shield kite fit imho. Few good kills made today in a fleet.

You only can hit at 20km or more with Neutrons in this case.

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Lockheed19
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-12-06 12:51:29 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
DerArt1st wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:

I am sure you can find some fit on one ship to beat this thing but fact is I like my chances in this Thorax, it hits 500-600, has a solid tank, lots of webs, great tracking and moves 1550m/s, 2187m/s on overheat.


You can't just compare EHP / DPS per second and tell exactly who will win. Sure a rupture does less dps, but a 1600mm plated rupture will be faster than you -> he will get range so u cant apply all your murderdps.

Ignoring the Thorax is actually faster for a moment, this is a very common sight. This is what is called Magical 1v1 Land, a Magical place where the entirety of a ships worth is decided by the value of how X Ship in one fit does against niche fit Ship Y under a specific scenario.

Common sights you may encounter in Magical 1v1 Land.

* The challenger ship is always counter fit to the original.
* There can never be anything unexpected, doesn't matter if your winning ship takes an hour to take down its prey there will be no interruptions.
* Fights always start at the exact range X Ship is required to beat Y Ship, no warping in, no ambushing.
* It doesn't matter how X Counter Fit works against every other ship in the game, everyone will of course be flying it and it is the only ship you will face if you fly Y Ship.
* You change your fictional fit to beat it they will change theirs to beat yours and still claim X ship is terrible. By the end the fits are so niche that the chances of actually undocking are slim to none.
* Numbers are taken as absolute off the stats page, if you are 1m/s faster you can kite or control range completely and always.
* By the end everyone is just left confused.

How you fight Magical 1v1 Land is by refusing to engage the scenario and instead look at the overall value of a ship. See the underlined above, Solid Tank, Good Tracking, Duel Webs, 500-600 DPS and 1550m/s / 2180 Overheat. DPS to help your gang break through reps, speed to help you catch things at range, webs to help you hold things down and keep them from getting to gates, buffer that keeps you alive or in bigger situations alive until Reps.

The ship is good, it doesn't win at everything always and forever. There are Cruisers that can curb stomp it. It can do things that others can not like more Dmg then an Armor Rupture and more Tank then a Shield Fit was my original point. Other fits can do things it can not like more Dmg for less tank, other ships can do things it can not like shoot farther. That is good an all but this fit tanks well, does good dmg and isn't slow and that is good.

It is a good ship at what it is good at. Solid Tank, Good Tracking, Duel Webs, 500-600 DPS and 1550m/s / 2180 Overheat. I am going to have fun flying it.


What an absolutely superb riposte.

Superb.
ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2012-12-08 14:09:12 UTC
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Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#70 - 2012-12-08 20:31:30 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Double LSE it of course


Never not double LSE

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