EVE General Discussion

I'm willing to bet that in less than a month the gains people are praising in reducing lvl 4 income will be completely lost at least until the bug where drone are not retargetted after being recalled then redeployed. Even then there will just be another set of best practices for income generation. Overall I don't see things changing in the long run, just a bit more tedium, which passes here for "challenge" some how and similar of not the same income generation.

Also doing group lvl 4's efficiently doesn't reduce income through sharing. It just gives more to both. If people do group up it just means that if they were good at dumping isk into the economy before, they will only get better.

That is bassicaly the only change. So i now have 15 lights instead of 5 med 5 lights as a backup. But they are only used when the frigs are close it is faster just to one shot them when they approach. I just have the watch my drones more.

But meh i personaly think lvl4s need to be much harder i make way to much for no risk.

My point exactly, I was making decent isk when I was in High Sec doing 4's, and looting made a lot as well when you sell/break it down and market it. Also, as previously mentioned, I did them a lot in groups from my corp, and we flew through missions, which was about the same amount solo'ing due to the faster missions in groups, but its tons more fun with them than alone, obviously.

Reidar

You did the missions solo in a drone boat and made 100-150M/hr?

And if that's the case, I'm all for looking at a revamp here, I saw someone mention less damage to drones so you can recall them and they get to you while taking potshots? I haven't tested the AI, then again I only use drones for frigs and run sites or belt rats in null, but will update whenever I get time to play and test stuff out. I honestly sat and looked at pretty ships last night when I finally got it downloaded

Reidar

the frigs pop your drones because frigs are closer in size to the drones, which is why battleships don't target them, i pop the frigs first, then unload my drones and sic em on the battleships, haven't lost any :)

really?... cos i only make about 75 mil from bounties in a nights worth of doing level 4's ... im lucky if iget 8 missions done in that time///

if its longer ones like the extravas i usually only get about 6 in.

wasn't he fired ?

I doubt it. Ive run several L4 missions solo in my Navy Domi. The drone aggro is weak and easily manageable. I lost all of 2 light drones because I was watching TV while missioning, and did not check often enough. On the other hand CCP buffed the Drone Damage Amp. The NPCs just melt before my sentries.

Before very few missions could be AFKed. The drones can always trigger a new wave, and catch aggro. Or if there are multiple rooms, you do have to actually fly over and activate a gate. Or you need to switch drones to handle different ship types. I do not see how anyone could have AFKed the entirety of AE4. So its gone from a few missions can be AFKed, to no missions. Its not a big change.

Same here I would like to recover my skillpoints spent in drones
it would be easier to butthurt bots by just removing AGGRESSIVE MODE for drone out of the game


No more mission runner afk no more miners AFK ( increase pirates dps in asteroids belt)