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El Geo
Warcrows
THE OLD SCHOOL
#141 - 2012-12-05 20:53:40 UTC
one thing so called suicide gankers havent picked up on yet, their haulers will get suspect flags for looting and the gates they tend to frequent usually have other people sat around

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Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2012-12-05 20:56:06 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
If I could place a bounty through the forums I would literally run out of money within a day.

Please do this CCP.


We talked about this at the game design morning meeting today. I'm not sure we'll do it, but it's definitely in the back of our heads. Personally, I'd love to have it in :) It's like an actual, meanginful, neg rep button Cool

Anyway, thanks for sharing your story OP, that's exactly what the system was built for.



If you do, just remember, the only way it will work is if the bounty applies to the entire account. Otherwise forum alts like myself are still immune.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#143 - 2012-12-05 20:56:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
El Geo wrote:
one thing so called suicide gankers havent picked up on yet, their haulers will get suspect flags for looting and the gates they tend to frequent usually have other people sat around


> Believes suicide gankers have not realized something that they have been preparing for since fanfest
> Posts it on the forums
> Is wrong about the first assumption anyway

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Mire Stoude
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#144 - 2012-12-05 21:04:20 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Derek Quaid wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Derek Quaid wrote:
For those of you who would like to deliver a little justice with complete impunity to individuals that have wronged you, consider Discreet Bounties anonymous bounty service.

Avoid the hate mail. Avoid retaliatory bounties. Know that your service provider is actively seeking out bounty hunters in hopes of coordinating their efforts against your targets.

Strike like a ghost in the night. Place your bounty with Discreet Bounties.


This seems legit.

I thought it might take months to receive such a prestigious endorsement. I'd like to thank the entire CCP team for implementing the tools to develop such a third-party service.

Special thanks to you, CCP Soundwave.


but IIIIIII wanted to make a corp like this!Big smile


You can join my corp, instead.
psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#145 - 2012-12-05 21:12:45 UTC
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:
psycho freak wrote:
Im happy youve had your payback m8

But to a -10 scumbag like myself killrights mean absalutly nothing and heres why

we live by the gun we die by the gun its our way
we live for the kill the fight the gank any bounty hunters welcome to come fight its what we do daily
beeing -10 losec scum will rarly find us in highsec alts ftw

Already had alot my killrights activated and it means nothing becouse the abouve resones

i can only see this effecting hisec pirates or losec daytripers

glad you felt the buzz of a kill maybe it time you put down your mineing lazors and pick up your guns and realy tast the lulz


Oh, right, because every pirate is there for the ~elite pvp~ inherent in popping ships who can't (or won't) fight back.

Just wait until the next time you run into a gatecamp. Or when you poke your little head into a wormhole. I'll be waiting.



Lol i was in few wh today and afta work this morning i took two my bs's into a gate camp in tama for the fight i had no were to run as i warped into them delibratly for the fight and i died gloryasly in flames but it was a sweet 5-10min fight me v 3xbc1x demios1x ashum

no need to wait fir me to pop into wh btw check kb you see were i live

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it
tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
#146 - 2012-12-05 21:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: tankus2
To quote a very creepy video game NPC:

Prepare for Unforeseen Consequences...

Where the science gets done
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2012-12-05 21:22:04 UTC
about those suicide gankers "stealing" from their own wrecks.

can't you just make them blue to avoid your alt getting a suspect flag ?
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-12-05 21:25:31 UTC
Theresa Lamont wrote:
So has begun the age of the bounty hunters. Legions of professional killers will now roam all corners of the galaxy to complete their contracts, and at the same time, satisfy someone else's thirst for vengeance.



It was about time Eve becomes a cold harsh world for other players than noobs, miners and carebears. Nice reading OP

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Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#149 - 2012-12-05 21:38:04 UTC
Keith Katar wrote:
Nub, Miners only fly Ventures now. Keep up with the times


More than just miners:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15395172
Quote:
You did WHAT?
To his WHAT?
With a WHAT?!

Derek Quaid wrote:
CCP has merely adjusted the valves so tears now flow more evenly from all sources.

I agree. It looks like I need to make me a few of them to see what they can do. Along with the new Destroyers.
El Geo wrote:
one thing so called suicide gankers havent picked up on yet, their haulers will get suspect flags for looting and the gates they tend to frequent usually have other people sat around

I'm quite certain that they've already set up a number of "friendly" POS in Niarja and Uedama to warp their lootpickers away so they can hide out their timers. Or use jump freighters and jump out as soon as they've looted what dropped.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#150 - 2012-12-05 21:40:17 UTC
Andski wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
If I could place a bounty through the forums I would literally run out of money within a day.

Please do this CCP.


We talked about this at the game design morning meeting today. I'm not sure we'll do it, but it's definitely in the back of our heads. Personally, I'd love to have it in :) It's like an actual, meanginful, neg rep button Cool

Anyway, thanks for sharing your story OP, that's exactly what the system was built for.


The player should be explicitly told that they received a bounty for their post. The notification should display the post, and the post on the forums should show the bounty placed on that player for that particular post. Consequences for bad posts.



I'd be one of the happiest guys around to see this happen, and please put bounties on meh, I promise I can not get benefits out of it.

:angel:

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Kurt Saken
Star Cluster Wanderer
#151 - 2012-12-05 21:42:56 UTC
El Geo wrote:
one thing so called suicide gankers havent picked up on yet, their haulers will get suspect flags for looting and the gates they tend to frequent usually have other people sat around



This isn't a problem when you live in w-space, but i assume you know this already.
Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#152 - 2012-12-05 21:44:33 UTC
The CandyGirl wrote:
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:
psycho freak wrote:
Im happy youve had your payback m8

But to a -10 scumbag like myself killrights mean absalutly nothing and heres why

we live by the gun we die by the gun its our way
we live for the kill the fight the gank any bounty hunters welcome to come fight its what we do daily
beeing -10 losec scum will rarly find us in highsec alts ftw

Already had alot my killrights activated and it means nothing becouse the abouve resones

i can only see this effecting hisec pirates or losec daytripers

glad you felt the buzz of a kill maybe it time you put down your mineing lazors and pick up your guns and realy tast the lulz


Oh, right, because every pirate is there for the ~elite pvp~ inherent in popping ships who can't (or won't) fight back.

Just wait until the next time you run into a gatecamp. Or when you poke your little head into a wormhole. I'll be waiting.


I think people have a misconception about what a pirate is. Pirates are not in it for an adrenaline pvp fight where you say gf after it.

Pirates are there for the money and to make people cry. It is just like how it was in rl, a pirate, back in the sale and cannon era, would never attack a heavily armed vesale. They went after the traders, everything was about making the most money for the least risk.

It is the same in eve. So you cant be surprised when they run from fair fights or a fight they might lose...

Though after saying this i do miss my days in the united. Killing stupid people everyday is always good times.


That's my point exactly. He's making a big show of being an ~internet tough guy~ when really, he just kills near-defenseless ships for fun but will never stand toe to toe with someone who is just as capable of destruction as he is.

My post is calling him out on his false and frail show of arms, and letting him know that if he actually was in it for the ~elite pvp~, he'd do about as well as the miners he pops.

"This is Vic. He just made the worst mistake of his life."

“Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave
Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#153 - 2012-12-05 21:45:54 UTC
psycho freak wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
psycho freak wrote:
Im happy youve had your payback m8

But to a -10 scumbag like myself killrights mean absalutly nothing and heres why

we live by the gun we die by the gun its our way
we live for the kill the fight the gank any bounty hunters welcome to come fight its what we do daily
beeing -10 losec scum will rarly find us in highsec alts ftw

Already had alot my killrights activated and it means nothing becouse the abouve resones

i can only see this effecting hisec pirates or losec daytripers

glad you felt the buzz of a kill maybe it time you put down your mineing lazors and pick up your guns and realy tast the lulz


We actually see when killrights on us get sold? omg now I am eager to login....




yes m8 i copy them to my ingame bio for lulz

but like i said b4 as losec -10 player we fight and die all the time the bounty is of little concern just fun bio matirial


Jesus **** would you please learn to speak goddamn English rather than this bastardized, lazy pidgin language?

“Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.” - CCP Soundwave
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#154 - 2012-12-05 22:03:40 UTC
El Geo wrote:
one thing so called suicide gankers havent picked up on yet, their haulers will get suspect flags for looting and the gates they tend to frequent usually have other people sat around


And?

I'm back!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#155 - 2012-12-05 22:19:28 UTC
Siobhan MacLeary wrote:
"This is Vic. He just made the worst mistake of his life."

He's undocking in lowsec or nullsec, using battleship missiles to gank mining frigates.

A lot of people are making terrible mistakes there.

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Norris Packard
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#156 - 2012-12-05 22:47:53 UTC
Bounties are something to be proud of and makes more pilots gun for me. I do like that this new system is bringing greater attention to the bounty system and seems to be encouraging more players to place bounties. That said it has changed nothing and is not making me quiver in my ectoplasmic goo.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#157 - 2012-12-05 23:20:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
Hey CCP, your bias is showing.

Look, if you want to get taken seriously, then put out some statistics regarding the amount of kill rights that get activated, versus the amount that actually get claimed. Include the average price for both. I have a feeling that you'll be unpleasantly surprised.

This system is, and always will be, an overhyped cop-out that will only be used for scamming. I don't get why you guys insist on "griefer tears" here. The griefers aren't dumb enough to expose themselves to unnecessary risk. They will gank with alts, they will steal when they're prepared, and they'll manipulate others into wasting their money to rid themselves of kill right vulnerability if they screw up either of those two things.

This system is bad not because it's making the belligerent undesirables cry; it's bad because it isn't doing that very thing.

Also, what's up with all those carebear claims of power through riches? The majority of bears have net worths that are less than one of my mid-tier pvp HACs. A carebear mines desperately to make enough for his next PLEX, and I have a literal stack of almost-identical T3s because I'm too lazy to change modules for minor fit variations. And although that is true in my case, when I say "I," I mean it in a general sense. Pirates, griefers, and other belligerent undesirables have a lot of money. That's what affords them their lifestyle. They certainly have more than the nine-to-five pseudo-industrialists who push Drakes on the Jita market for five-figure margins.

Ranger 1 wrote:
Makes me wonder why Destiny Corrupted (supposedly) went to the trouble of creating proof for an act that is now a bannable offense. Smile

Or, more likely, he's full of crap today.

Everything is a bannable offense with you nowadays. Am I getting banned for margin trade scamming too, now?

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#158 - 2012-12-06 00:05:35 UTC
Alua Oresson wrote:
Killtime wrote:
All's fair and good for the people who want to be spaceship superheroes, but how about those of us who just want to make the universe burn?

That ORE mining frigate is one thing, but it probably won't be long until ALL mining/indy bearboats get warp core strength as a role bonus.
Once that happens, the next step is to give free warp core strength to anyone with a +5 sec status.

Well, here's to hoping that the new aggression mechanics have a few loopholes for us to exploit in the name of SCIENCE!


Throw a HIC into your gang. Or you can run a long and short point at once, or even run a +3 strength faction scram.

Always bring friends.
tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
#159 - 2012-12-06 01:35:32 UTC
Alua Oresson wrote:


Throw a HIC into your gang. Or you can run a long and short point at once, or even run a +3 strength faction scram.


I don't PvP often. But when I do, I use faction gear to hold them in place.

Where the science gets done
Sriracha Nighthawk
Perkone
Caldari State
#160 - 2012-12-06 02:50:04 UTC
Tiberius StarGazer wrote:
As a total carebear who likes mining and making things who, up until last week was about to give up on this game because I felt that I would never be able to get revenge against all those who have wronged me (check my kill board, there is been a few).

I took a good look into this and rubbed my dirty miners hands together.

At last a way I can get my own back.

So today I sold my kill rights, all of them, and a few hours after doing so, a notification popped up saying a kill right had been completed.

I checked the kill boards.

My loss, 50m, their loss, 58m.

Victory.

Shortly after members of the pirate corp, threatened to come and find me and kill me. My simple reply, I have deep pockets, for every kill you make on me: I will add as a bounty on your corp, every kill right: I will sell.

I cant fight you, but others can and you will have to lose 5 x my loss for wronging me.

I swear, I could almost taste the pirate tears... Or is that carebear tears?

Now I understand why all them pirates for all these years complained so loudly as soon as there was any threat to their power. It was now time for them to feel like victims.

I have not once, in all of my game time in eve, felt like I had actually "won". I felt like the beaten up bottom of the pile pesant that gets kicked around all fhe time. I didnt make this kill, but it felt like I did and it felt good.

So much so I sent the people on the kill mail a thankyou email and some extra ISK with encouragement to keep up the good work.

Oh revenge is so sweet.

Thank you CCP for allowing carebears to encourage the pew pew in others.


The generation of bounty revenge has begun...

"Kind of like the Caldari version of Adama I guess." -Kairavi Mrithyakara