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Buy the ability to fix your sec status in game?

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Hazzard
Chaotic Dynamics
#1 - 2012-12-05 12:12:47 UTC
In the Eve Open the idea what mentioned that there could be an in game item players could buy to boost there sec status.

Is this in game yet? If not can CCP please confirm if it's in there backlog?

Emu Meo
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-12-05 12:14:11 UTC
Im going to call obvious troll here. :)
Ralle030583
Unidentified Murderers and Young Hack Offenders
#3 - 2012-12-05 12:29:26 UTC
i know i shoudn't feed the troll but...

... go just [insert something where you shoot rats and what makes concord happy] and you have all the sec status you want
Trdina Rasputin
Man-dingo
#4 - 2012-12-05 12:33:22 UTC
I remember something like that, from fan fest.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-12-05 13:02:14 UTC
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.
Ginger Barbarella
#6 - 2012-12-05 13:03:57 UTC
... and hopefully it never WILL be put in-game.

Friggin' Easy Buttoners...

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CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2012-12-05 13:06:51 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.


Yeah, we're looking at solutions like that currently.
Dark Long
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-12-05 13:16:44 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.


Yeah, we're looking at solutions like that currently.


bad i idea throwing isk at fix sec stats ccp vrey bad stop now.
iskflakes
#9 - 2012-12-05 13:56:33 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.


Yeah, we're looking at solutions like that currently.


This is very good. I don't go ratting or missioning so my freighter alt has no way to fix his sec status. While you're at it could you add remaps to the NEX store? Thanks.

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Fergus Runkle
Truth and Reconciliation Council
#10 - 2012-12-05 14:02:34 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.


Yeah, we're looking at solutions like that currently.



I really hope not.

Dark World where you must face the consequences of your actions ?

Any way to buy (with isk or items that can be traded for isk) your sec status back would be far far too easy.

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
ihcn
Life. Universe. Everything.
#11 - 2012-12-05 14:12:12 UTC
Fergus Runkle wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.


Yeah, we're looking at solutions like that currently.



I really hope not.

Dark World where you must face the consequences of your actions ?

Any way to buy (with isk or items that can be traded for isk) your sec status back would be far far too easy.

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Fixing security status is THE least fun part of the game. And trying to say "oh well just don't do pvp and it won't be a problem" is flat out stupid when nothing in this game except for pvp is any fun.
CCP Falcon
#12 - 2012-12-05 14:14:03 UTC

Thread cleaned.

Keep it constructive and on topic.

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Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#13 - 2012-12-05 14:45:15 UTC
Let us buy sec status for AUR.


















j/k
CCP Soundwave
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2012-12-05 14:47:59 UTC
ihcn wrote:
Fergus Runkle wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.


Yeah, we're looking at solutions like that currently.



I really hope not.

Dark World where you must face the consequences of your actions ?

Any way to buy (with isk or items that can be traded for isk) your sec status back would be far far too easy.

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Fixing security status is THE least fun part of the game. And trying to say "oh well just don't do pvp and it won't be a problem" is flat out stupid when nothing in this game except for pvp is any fun.


Yeah. The idea behind adding alternative venues to repairing status is that the current way just isn't good enough. Instead of having a single venue and crossing our fingers that it's good enough, I'd prefer to have ways of doing this and letting players choose which way suits them.

The goal isn't that people shouldn't take responsibility, it's given people the option to redeem themselves in a manner that's not grinding missions forever.
CCP Falcon
#15 - 2012-12-05 14:53:55 UTC

If you feel like spamming and trolling, then there are plenty of third party forums out there that will allow you to do so. Feel free to visit them.

Also, this is getting moved to Features & Ideas Discussion, as it's off topic for General Discussion.

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#16 - 2012-12-05 14:54:06 UTC
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Lord Okinaba
Aliastra
#17 - 2012-12-05 14:54:30 UTC
I don't like this idea. The idea that if you're rich enough you don't have to suffer the same consequences as everybody else, you can just buy your way out of trouble. I don't like the idea of it in real life and I don't like the idea of it in EVE.
Irregessa
Obfuscation and Reflections
#18 - 2012-12-05 15:02:19 UTC
Not sure why this should be a surprise to anyone, it was discussed at Fan Fest, which was recorded.

In fact, I have been saving up tags since Fan Fest in hopes that they would implement something like this.


Something that has been discussed in an alliance that I have a couple characters in is that security status is a resource, just like isk. You build up this resource by shooting rats and you expend the resource by shooting players in non-nullsec space. The speed at which you acquire sec status, however, is much, much slower than it is expended. I'm not saying that they need to be made equivalent, but being able to build up to 5.0 from -1.0 (not even talking -10 here) shouldn't take 40-50 hours of killing red crosses, when it can go to negatives in less than 30 minutes.
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#19 - 2012-12-05 15:12:30 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Yeah. The idea behind adding alternative venues to repairing status is that the current way just isn't good enough. Instead of having a single venue and crossing our fingers that it's good enough, I'd prefer to have ways of doing this and letting players choose which way suits them.

The goal isn't that people shouldn't take responsibility, it's given people the option to redeem themselves in a manner that's not grinding missions forever.
So are you planning to at least put time limits on the solution, like the 3 months for "redeeming" yourself with the pirate factions? Or only being able to go back this way from -5.0?

Going negative sec. isn't something that just happens, like someone busting their NPC standings via derived hits.

People are more than aware of what they are doing, and the people who do it are more than capable of dealing with the consequence.

I really hope you do see the design paradox in giving people a penalty for an activity, and then allowing them to nullify that penlty using the goods gained by performing the activity that got them penalized in the first place.

You have a rule against recycling negative sec alts for a reason, before you allow people to just throw ISK at it, instead of biomassing, take some time and reconsider why you have security penalties in the first place.

If they can go away by spending ISK, why even have them in the first place? Crimewatch went along way in making sure people can pew pew in lots of places with minimal sec hits. I see no reason to inconvenience people at all with sec penalties, if they can just buy their way out. Not even an ISK sink since tags are player traded - just remove the penalty all together.

Or, limit sec gain to low-sec and discourage people from going too low in the first place and promote the myriad of "legal" fighting that crimewatch just brought them. Don't promote lowsec gate camping by removing the consequences. It's the least likely form of PvP to get people interested, the opposite is probably more true.

Fergus Runkle
Truth and Reconciliation Council
#20 - 2012-12-05 15:19:53 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
ihcn wrote:
Fergus Runkle wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
Tippia wrote:
It's not in yet, but they've been discussing it for a while.

Back at fanfest, the idea was floated that some of the otherwise largely pointless officer and elite pirate tags could be used to bump up your sec status (or, perhaps more accurately, your CONCORD standing), much like how you can use regular pirate tags to bump your faction standing at data center sites.

Nothing more official has come of it so far, though.


Yeah, we're looking at solutions like that currently.



I really hope not.

Dark World where you must face the consequences of your actions ?

Any way to buy (with isk or items that can be traded for isk) your sec status back would be far far too easy.

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Fixing security status is THE least fun part of the game. And trying to say "oh well just don't do pvp and it won't be a problem" is flat out stupid when nothing in this game except for pvp is any fun.


Yeah. The idea behind adding alternative venues to repairing status is that the current way just isn't good enough. Instead of having a single venue and crossing our fingers that it's good enough, I'd prefer to have ways of doing this and letting players choose which way suits them.

The goal isn't that people shouldn't take responsibility, it's given people the option to redeem themselves in a manner that's not grinding missions forever.



Then totally de-couple Sec Status from PvE activities all together.

You can only lose Sec Status by a PvP act, make the only way to GAIN Sec Status by a PvP act .. ie hunting those with an equal for lower Sec Staus than your own.
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