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Large bounty Pools , Shut'em down, (is it possible)
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Aziesta
Binal Extensions
Xagenic Freymvork
#21 - 2012-12-05 01:30:48 UTC
Psusennes wrote:
I would like to someone facilate Large bounty pools, as to shut down the 'real A_Holes of eve'.

Could you explain how this would work? Seeing as how the ganker gets 20% of the lost value? Not enough value in a mackinaw to subsidize a tornado. If someone does have enough value to warrant a gank, the loot drop will be far more payout than the bounty, no?
Psusennes
Cherry-Garcia
#22 - 2012-12-05 01:40:11 UTC
Aziesta wrote:
Psusennes wrote:
I would like to someone facilate Large bounty pools, as to shut down the 'real A_Holes of eve'.

Could you explain how this would work? Seeing as how the ganker gets 20% of the lost value? Not enough value in a mackinaw to subsidize a tornado. If someone does have enough value to warrant a gank, the loot drop will be far more payout than the bounty, no?

I would think a team of low cost ships , just trying to figure it out tbh
not sure it will work for solo work
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#23 - 2012-12-05 01:42:47 UTC
I'm sadden that I am not on the list. <^-^>

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#24 - 2012-12-05 02:02:11 UTC
Psusennes wrote:
Aziesta wrote:
Psusennes wrote:
I would like to someone facilate Large bounty pools, as to shut down the 'real A_Holes of eve'.

Could you explain how this would work? Seeing as how the ganker gets 20% of the lost value? Not enough value in a mackinaw to subsidize a tornado. If someone does have enough value to warrant a gank, the loot drop will be far more payout than the bounty, no?

I would think a team of low cost ships , just trying to figure it out tbh
not sure it will work for solo work

Yeah a team can ~gank profitably~ but then the whole sec status thing gets annoying ...

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#25 - 2012-12-05 02:09:49 UTC
Like i tried to outline in a thread a few days ago, it would only be effective with corps/alliances that spend most of their time in lowsec or 0.0.

Some people might go through the trouble of wardeccing a hisec corp just for bounty, but the convenience of seeing someone with a bounty on them near you, and then deciding to blow them up, should be more prevalent.

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Powers Sa
#26 - 2012-12-05 02:22:02 UTC
post suggestions in my thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2268290#post2268290

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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-12-05 05:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
The great thing about bounty is it never goes away. If you aren't profitable to gank at 1 million isk eventually you will be at 100 million. It might not be worth spending a fortune for one guy that pisses you off but if the guy pissed you off they are likely to anger others. Eventually the bounty will be large enough to warrant collection. Its a great system.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-12-05 05:30:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Karsa Egivand
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
The great thing about bounty is it never goes away. If you aren't profitable to gank at 1 million isk eventually you will be at 100 million. It might not be worth spending a fortune for one guy that pisses you off but if the guy pissed you off they are likely to anger others. Eventually the bounty will be large enough to warrant collection. Its a great system.


Actually... no.

You will only ever be paid up to 20% of the ships worth, not the full bounty.

Which means that ganks will not necessarily be profitable even with a bounty pool of millions. It just depends on the worth of the ship as well as its tank.

A faction-pimped frigate will be easily worth it.

A freighter won't be worth to gank just by itself. It'll still need reasonably valuable cargo on board (because at max you'll get sth like 300-500 M ISK payout from the bounty pool, unless he stuffs it too full of valuable cargo > stupid freighter pilot).

It's different for every ship class. T1 ships with a decent tank won't be profitable to gank, most of the time, however large the size of the bounty pool is.

Thin and fragile T2 ships on the other hand...

Faction ships in general should be a profitable gank when the bounty pool hits a certain size.
Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-12-05 07:01:51 UTC
Ok guys what did I miss?

Other than the discussion were we all decided to swap to the language the OP is using?

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-12-05 07:08:08 UTC
Wivabel wrote:
Yes add the abilty to post bouties on the forums awesome.


Also carbears suck, bunch of babies
Also pirates suck, bunch of babies
Also gankers suck, bunch of babies
Also forum poster trolls suck, bunch of babies
Also you suck, you lil baby waaaah waaaah


Also if you put a bounty on me you will regret it


hahahahahhahahahahaahahahaha

PS you suck, you lil baby


Fixed it, you made it sound like people were being naughty with small children, and that's a no-no Shocked

Reidar
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-12-05 07:09:34 UTC
Spectre Wraith wrote:
I Myt Liv wrote:
Yup. Make more people leave the game.

You really hate EVE, do you not ?

Real pathetic troll attempt up above me there.



+1 million bounty.


Some forum warrior placed a half billion on me earlier cuz they didn't like me disagreeing with them. Then, someone tried to claim it by attempting to scram my new shield-tanked Venture, and while I slipped away thanks to the +2 warp core strength bonus on the ship, CONCORD slipped in and turned them to dust.

I'm seeing a lot of people out there who are actually thinking that bounties = kill rights. This is really sad. And a huge waste of ISK, tbh. But, it's not my isk. It's pretty damn funny though P

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#32 - 2012-12-05 07:31:27 UTC
Psusennes wrote:
I would like to someone facilate Large bounty pools, as to shut down the 'real A_Holes of eve'.

Blobber
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-12-06 10:01:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Karsa Egivand wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
The great thing about bounty is it never goes away. If you aren't profitable to gank at 1 million isk eventually you will be at 100 million. It might not be worth spending a fortune for one guy that pisses you off but if the guy pissed you off they are likely to anger others. Eventually the bounty will be large enough to warrant collection. Its a great system.


Actually... no.

You will only ever be paid up to 20% of the ships worth, not the full bounty.

Which means that ganks will not necessarily be profitable even with a bounty pool of millions. It just depends on the worth of the ship as well as its tank.

A faction-pimped frigate will be easily worth it.

A freighter won't be worth to gank just by itself. It'll still need reasonably valuable cargo on board (because at max you'll get sth like 300-500 M ISK payout from the bounty pool, unless he stuffs it too full of valuable cargo > stupid freighter pilot).

It's different for every ship class. T1 ships with a decent tank won't be profitable to gank, most of the time, however large the size of the bounty pool is.

Thin and fragile T2 ships on the other hand...

Faction ships in general should be a profitable gank when the bounty pool hits a certain size.



You just contradicted me then proceeded to make the exact point I stressed.
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