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Krixtal Icefluxor
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#1 - 2012-12-04 12:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Brace yourselves.

Most of it apparently feels like Peter Jackson's "Slow Boat to Skull Island".

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59869

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#2 - 2012-12-04 13:20:20 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Brace yourselves.

Most of it apparently feels like Peter Jackson's "Slow Boat to Skull Island".

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59869


Hmmm ... considering Im a fanboi of anything LOTR, I will enjoy the movie nonetheless. Though I wasnt expecting a trilogy (a truly boneheaded cash grabbin move) I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien.

But deep down, I know that what is to blame is the high expectations people have for the film. The Hobbit story is much simpler, almost "classical". I remember reading it to kids at the hospital and mostly to make them sleep.

If people are expecting this to be an action no holds barred full contact epic fest, they wont find it in the first movie anyway.

Perhaps the Battle of the Five Armies will be depicted in gruesome detail and make the trilogy worth it, and for me, Im still waiting to see the friendly Beorn in the "flesh" , always loved the big werebear , even if his part was minuscule.

So, yeah I feel from the movie (part one at least) it will be aimed mostly at the people that decried the inaccurateness of some parts in the first trilogy.

If the reviewer feels Bilbo (and the actor) a bit overacting, trust me, he hit it spot on. Now, if this will be a mainstream appeal film, dont know, too early to tell.

My only fear is if the movie flunks, if they will have enough money to finish the other two.

I REALLY REALLY want to see Beorn and his friends ripping warg, bat and goblin flesh :) (specially big bad nasty putrid Beolg)

Ahhh, started with a bit of worry, but then ... left with high hopes. If its so accurate its almost reading the book slowly, I will enjoy it!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2012-12-04 13:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Brujo Loco wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Brace yourselves.

Most of it apparently feels like Peter Jackson's "Slow Boat to Skull Island".

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59869


Hmmm ... considering Im a fanboi of anything LOTR, I will enjoy the movie nonetheless. Though I wasnt expecting a trilogy (a truly boneheaded cash grabbin move) I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien.

But deep down, I know that what is to blame is the high expectations people have for the film. The Hobbit story is much simpler, almost "classical". I remember reading it to kids at the hospital and mostly to make them sleep.

If people are expecting this to be an action no holds barred full contact epic fest, they wont find it in the first movie anyway.

Perhaps the Battle of the Five Armies will be depicted in gruesome detail and make the trilogy worth it, and for me, Im still waiting to see the friendly Beorn in the "flesh" , always loved the big werebear , even if his part was minuscule.

So, yeah I feel from the movie (part one at least) it will be aimed mostly at the people that decried the inaccurateness of some parts in the first trilogy.

If the reviewer feels Bilbo (and the actor) a bit overacting, trust me, he hit it spot on. Now, if this will be a mainstream appeal film, dont know, too early to tell.

My only fear is if the movie flunks, if they will have enough money to finish the other two.

I REALLY REALLY want to see Beorn and his friends ripping warg, bat and goblin flesh :) (specially big bad nasty putrid Beolg)

Ahhh, started with a bit of worry, but then ... left with high hopes. If its so accurate its almost reading the book slowly, I will enjoy it!



As with the original trilogy, all 3 parts are essentially finished as they were made at the same time.

But, my one fear apparently came true:

The new 48 FPS usage is a disaster.

I saw a documentary once filmed at 48 FPS and everything looked too real.

Apparently that is the case here...suddenly the sets look like sets, the makeup looks obviously like makeup, et al.

I groaned when they announced this useage of 48 FPS, and it took a giant whipping in the media when footage was previewed back in April.

Apparently, nobody will say "No, bad idea" to Peter Jackson any longer, ala George Lucas.

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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#4 - 2012-12-04 13:36:32 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Apparently, nobody will say "No, bad idea" to Peter Jackson any longer, ala George Lucas.


Well, to keep my mental sanity on I will pretend I´m at the THEATER (like a Thespian one) and Im seeing live actors, only way I could rationalize the CRISPNESS of everything.

Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.

Ugh ...

Also great for the whole movie being finished, I have tried to keep away from most anything related to the movie to avoid any spoilers in presentation (but kinda hard when you know the book by heart) But so far I have tried to distantiate myself from the film to truly watch it unbiased, but the review link was just too tempting ...

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#5 - 2012-12-04 13:41:53 UTC
Brujo Loco wrote:

Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.

Ugh ...



Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window.

I knew this would be the public response.

A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet.

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Serptimis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-12-04 20:24:49 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:

Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.

Ugh ...



Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window.

I knew this would be the public response.

A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet.

This is why I cant watch a lot of movies on HD TV's, they look like documentaries, it feels wrong. And yeah, stringing out the book into 3 movies def smacks of blatant cash grab.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#7 - 2012-12-04 20:32:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Brujo Loco wrote:
I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien !
The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D).

I'm in it for the money

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Doomheim
#8 - 2012-12-04 21:10:20 UTC
Serptimis wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:

Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.

Ugh ...



Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window.

I knew this would be the public response.

A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet.

This is why I cant watch a lot of movies on HD TV's, they look like documentaries, it feels wrong. And yeah, stringing out the book into 3 movies def smacks of blatant cash grab.


The choice to go with three movies is much more likely because of one simple thing. They know that these are the last middle-earth movies they're ever going to make. They wanted to show on the big screen many of the events, that happen during the same time period, but the book doesn't cover. They had the choice of either abandoning those ideas entirely or go for it all now, when the funding was there, and make it a trilogy.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-04 21:24:04 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien !
The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D).

sensorial overload due to the massive ammount of data needed to process. no, really the book is awesome, but extremely complex.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2012-12-04 21:35:36 UTC
Serptimis wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:

Now that you talk about that I was watching some of the HD trailers ... I was noticing everything looked a bit too fake too ... that dreaded moment when realism destroys imagination by pretending to make imagination more realist.

Ugh ...



Film (as in Cinema) needs a kind of 'fog', or the unreality of the reality (does that make sense) allows for no suspension of disbelief. It all goes out the window.

I knew this would be the public response.

A friend nay-sayed me back in ihe summer. I am now owed $100 on a bet.

This is why I cant watch a lot of movies on HD TV's, they look like documentaries, it feels wrong. And yeah, stringing out the book into 3 movies def smacks of blatant cash grab.



Well, at least the filler should be interesting as a lot is derived from the LOTR Appendix and a few of the 'unpublished' writings.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#11 - 2012-12-04 21:36:13 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien !
The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D).


Silmarillion would make a great, really stylized mini-series.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-05 00:02:34 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien !
The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D).

sensorial overload due to the massive ammount of data needed to process. no, really the book is awesome, but extremely complex.


I would not really call it complex, because it is not really so. It just have a **** ton of names in it :)
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#13 - 2012-12-05 00:50:44 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien !
The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D).


Silmarillion would make a great, really stylized mini-series.


The Silmarillion is just epic and a lot moreso than LotR. However I cannot see how that one can be made into a movie ore even a multitude of movies without completly losing that epicness.
Also, the vast majority of people would not understand it and the hardcore fans on the other hand are probably mostly purists and would not accept a watered-down version.

So no, that is most likely never going to happen.


Though Jude Law as Sauron before his fall would be awesome...

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#14 - 2012-12-05 02:14:28 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Webvan wrote:
Brujo Loco wrote:
I still will enjoy it for the simple fact it brings to an end a cycle of movies dedicated to the works of Tolkien !
The Silmarillion -only if it were made into a movie ...or better yet an animation (not 3D).


Silmarillion would make a great, really stylized mini-series.


The Silmarillion is just epic and a lot moreso than LotR. However I cannot see how that one can be made into a movie ore even a multitude of movies without completly losing that epicness.
Also, the vast majority of people would not understand it and the hardcore fans on the other hand are probably mostly purists and would not accept a watered-down version.

So no, that is most likely never going to happen.


Though Jude Law as Sauron before his fall would be awesome...


You're propably right. Silmarillion is pretty weak as far as stories go and it simply is not a well written book. It's something even many Tolkien fans only read once and never pick up again. It certainly has loads of interesting ideas for film makers to expand on and tell stories about, but it isn't that popular and would require a large budget to do justice to all the gods, monsters and wars it has. It's not exactly a good recipe for box office gold.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#15 - 2012-12-05 03:10:43 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Eterne
I'm sure you don't have to watch it in 3D...

Guess you can't please some people though.

For years everyone bitched about 23.976 being too much like a blurry mess (me included) with dealing with action films because the cinematographer didn't open the shutter to the correct amount, like a film school reject.

48/47.96 is a ***** god send, because now I can sit in the front row and have my vision dominated by the movie without puking on whichever friend's wife I feel like taking.

AK

Removed inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2012-12-05 05:10:45 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
I'm sure you don't have to watch it in 3D...



We were discussing 48 FPS, not 3D.

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pussnheels
Viziam
#17 - 2012-12-05 08:21:49 UTC
not a good year , first , the news of ESO and now a dissapointing preview of a long awaited film
thid yime i willprobably wait for all parts to come out in a special edition box

in the mean time i just start rereading all the main books again ( the hobbit, LOTR , silmarillion ) i bet i will enjpy them again like so many times before

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#18 - 2012-12-05 13:23:01 UTC
I've actually read the Silmarillion 5 times through.

Anyone else beat that ??

I'm still sane I think.............

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#19 - 2012-12-05 17:11:40 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
We were discussing 48 FPS, not 3D.


My point is relevant to the discussion: people are bitching about the fps and 3D combined, outside this thread of course, because no one here has seen it.

IF you want to have a discussion about 48 fps in cinema, open a new thread and I'll specifically chime accordingly, but for now...

AK

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#20 - 2012-12-05 17:19:53 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
We were discussing 48 FPS, not 3D.


My point is relevant to the discussion: people are bitching about the fps and 3D combined, outside this thread of course, because no one here has seen it.

IF you want to have a discussion about 48 fps in cinema, open a new thread and I'll specifically chime accordingly, but for now...

AK



I see no complaining about 3D at all, but plenty for the few of us that have experienced 48 fps.

My first time was actually a film at Disney World and that was in 1978 so it's already an ancient technology.....with many reasons why it didn't fly. (It's so realistic and the brain takes in so much more visual information it feels like some kind of weird 'slow motion').

And sure enough at the preview footage last April the awfulness of the process overrode any rational discussion of what was actually seen in the trailer.

Big mistake Mr. Jackson. I'll see it at 24/sec thank you.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

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