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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-12-04 19:45:18 UTC
Toku Jiang wrote:
I wonder then they qualify as "not new" players anymore, and how am I going to know that placing bounties on them is off limits?


Common Sense I would Imagine, but that is sometimes to much to ask of people.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-12-04 19:45:29 UTC
Mag's wrote:
If you didn't already know, CCP are saying NOT to place bounties on new players.

You have been warned.



If CCP dont want us putting bounties on 'new' players then CODE FOR IT, programatically stop someone from putting a bounty on a new player when you are working on your shiny new bounty system... (i.e. DUH)

Don't put nebulous statements on a website not everyone reads and expect that to become policy implemented in the game, and then punish people who 'don't follow the directive...'? Warning? On a website when you have CODE at your fingertips? What STUPIDITY.

Again, if its worth a GM making a policy statement that has any real value, then its worth CODING FOR IT.

That is all.

Would you like to know more?
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-12-04 19:46:14 UTC
Sol Kouvo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
If you didn't already know, CCP are saying NOT to place bounties on new players.

You have been warned.

Yes well, people aren't listening... because the feature is created in such a way that is all but encouraged it to be abused and used to harass other players, much like this video game in general.

Why am I bothering to sit here and spout so much negativity some might ask? Because I just paid $15 for this crapfest and I'm gonna get my money's worth one way or another. Roll


Don't they offer the free trial anymore? Oh well. My condolences, however a little research should've told you EVE is full of dastardly ne'er do wells, and CCP is proud of this fact. The re-telling of the fairy tale that is BoB's disbandment comes to mind... Its all player driven content, though as mentioned, placing bounties on new characters is being dissuaded by CCP in the aforementioned link.

Reidar
gfldex
#24 - 2012-12-04 19:48:36 UTC
A hatemail for 100k? That's a good price.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-12-04 19:49:06 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Mag's wrote:
If you didn't already know, CCP are saying NOT to place bounties on new players.

You have been warned.



If CCP dont want us putting bounties on 'new' players then CODE FOR IT, programatically stop someone from putting a bounty on a new player when you are working on your shiny new bounty system... (i.e. DUH)

Don't put nebulous statements on a website not everyone reads and expect that to become policy implemented in the game, and then punish people who 'don't follow the directive...'? Warning? On a website when you have CODE at your fingertips? What STUPIDITY.

Again, if its worth a GM making a policy statement that has any real value, then its worth CODING FOR IT.

That is all.


Hear Hear!!

I can't believe CCP didn't think of this being used... You know someone will come up with something 'for the lulz' on this game. Open bounties? To me, bad idea. Keeping them on neg sec status=acceptable. Putting them on corporations/alliances=acceptable. Now its an open market of putting out bounties. Maybe they want to seed the market of kill rights for the idiots that think Concord *won't* intervene? Then the bounty target can sell the killright?

Reidar
Mag's
Azn Empire
#26 - 2012-12-04 19:50:48 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Mag's wrote:
If you didn't already know, CCP are saying NOT to place bounties on new players.

You have been warned.



If CCP dont want us putting bounties on 'new' players then CODE FOR IT, programatically stop someone from putting a bounty on a new player when you are working on your shiny new bounty system... (i.e. DUH)

Don't put nebulous statements on a website not everyone reads and expect that to become policy implemented in the game, and then punish people who 'don't follow the directive...'? Warning? On a website when you have CODE at your fingertips? What STUPIDITY.

Again, if its worth a GM making a policy statement that has any real value, then its worth CODING FOR IT.

That is all.
Like I said, this is kinda par for the course as far as patches are concerned. They'll most likely code it so you can't place a bounty on anyone under 30 days old (maybe 60) at some point. But until then, much like can baiting in newbie systems, just don't do it.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Renier Gaden
Immortal Guides
#27 - 2012-12-04 19:52:54 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I don't know.

I just war decced the guy that decided to put 100mil bounty on me. Now he will have a chance of getting it back.

Oh Kane, you are so accommodating. Smile
I will keep an eye on the forums to see what new adventures come your way due to the changes in this expansion. I am predicting that this will have a positive effect on your killboard.
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-12-04 20:07:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Reidar Oskald
Mag's wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Mag's wrote:
If you didn't already know, CCP are saying NOT to place bounties on new players.

You have been warned.



If CCP dont want us putting bounties on 'new' players then CODE FOR IT, programatically stop someone from putting a bounty on a new player when you are working on your shiny new bounty system... (i.e. DUH)

Don't put nebulous statements on a website not everyone reads and expect that to become policy implemented in the game, and then punish people who 'don't follow the directive...'? Warning? On a website when you have CODE at your fingertips? What STUPIDITY.

Again, if its worth a GM making a policy statement that has any real value, then its worth CODING FOR IT.

That is all.
Like I said, this is kinda par for the course as far as patches are concerned. They'll most likely code it so you can't place a bounty on anyone under 30 days old (maybe 60) at some point. But until then, much like can baiting in newbie systems, just don't do it.


Yeah, I was thinking 30-60 days too, since you can be in the Newb channel 30 days, I think? Should give ample time for them to learn the ropes. Doesn't matter much to me, I rarely come to high sec. However, as a Null Dweller, what do you think about the quick ALT's other Alliances use to just get cyno's or scouts in on new characters? I don't think Bountying them is a good idea in the first place, but should something be put in place if they leave high-sec for low/null that you can then put a bounty out on them? Maybe as an incentive for people to kill the cyno ALT in Alliances (especially since no Concord in Null), it puts some money in the members' pockets?

Reidar
psycho freak
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-12-04 20:13:42 UTC
Anonymous Fighter wrote:
I have been hanging out in the Help chat channel and Dodixie local handing out a few bounties here and there (ok more like lots of them) and i have been getting some vicious hate evemail!

Is anyone else getting lots of hate mail from people you put bounties on?

The worst are 5.0 sec status carbears and nullbears.





Please post the mails share the lulz man

my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k

nop cant find it
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#30 - 2012-12-04 20:20:16 UTC
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Mag's wrote:
If you didn't already know, CCP are saying NOT to place bounties on new players.

You have been warned.



If CCP dont want us putting bounties on 'new' players then CODE FOR IT, programatically stop someone from putting a bounty on a new player when you are working on your shiny new bounty system... (i.e. DUH)

Don't put nebulous statements on a website not everyone reads and expect that to become policy implemented in the game, and then punish people who 'don't follow the directive...'? Warning? On a website when you have CODE at your fingertips? What STUPIDITY.

Again, if its worth a GM making a policy statement that has any real value, then its worth CODING FOR IT.

That is all.


Hear Hear!!

I can't believe CCP didn't think of this being used... You know someone will come up with something 'for the lulz' on this game. Open bounties? To me, bad idea. Keeping them on neg sec status=acceptable. Putting them on corporations/alliances=acceptable. Now its an open market of putting out bounties. Maybe they want to seed the market of kill rights for the idiots that think Concord *won't* intervene? Then the bounty target can sell the killright?

Reidar


No need to code for it. Coding for it will just allow people to create 'unbountyable' alts that you just know will get recycled (yes, I know this too is an exploit).
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-12-04 20:22:44 UTC
Anonymous Fighter wrote:
I have been hanging out in the Help chat channel and Dodixie local handing out a few bounties here and there (ok more like lots of them) and i have been getting some vicious hate evemail!

Is anyone else getting lots of hate mail from people you put bounties on?

The worst are 5.0 sec status carbears and nullbears.




L O V E L Y !!!

New bounty system will rock the house / empire.

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
#32 - 2012-12-04 20:23:16 UTC
If the event in my signature takes off, the hatemail will never cease.

"I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker
Anslo
Scope Works
#33 - 2012-12-04 20:23:28 UTC
Gaaah I wish I could sign in and see how much isk got put on me D:

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-12-04 20:23:57 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Mag's wrote:
If you didn't already know, CCP are saying NOT to place bounties on new players.

You have been warned.



If CCP dont want us putting bounties on 'new' players then CODE FOR IT, programatically stop someone from putting a bounty on a new player when you are working on your shiny new bounty system... (i.e. DUH)

Don't put nebulous statements on a website not everyone reads and expect that to become policy implemented in the game, and then punish people who 'don't follow the directive...'? Warning? On a website when you have CODE at your fingertips? What STUPIDITY.

Again, if its worth a GM making a policy statement that has any real value, then its worth CODING FOR IT.

That is all.


Hear Hear!!

I can't believe CCP didn't think of this being used... You know someone will come up with something 'for the lulz' on this game. Open bounties? To me, bad idea. Keeping them on neg sec status=acceptable. Putting them on corporations/alliances=acceptable. Now its an open market of putting out bounties. Maybe they want to seed the market of kill rights for the idiots that think Concord *won't* intervene? Then the bounty target can sell the killright?

Reidar


No need to code for it. Coding for it will just allow people to create 'unbountyable' alts that you just know will get recycled (yes, I know this too is an exploit).


My point exactly, I know where we are in Null, there are week old or so ALT's coming down all the time and opening cyno's or just scouting systems for other alliances. If it were coded they can't have a bounty placed due to being new, otherwise maybe an Alliance or Corp could put bounties on these known ALT's as a bit of an incentive to chase down and kill them. Admittedly, the 20% of ship value wouldn't be much, but they are troublesome at least.

Reidar
Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-12-04 20:27:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ana Fox
Sol Kouvo wrote:

Why am I bothering to sit here and spout so much negativity some might ask? Because I just paid $15 for this crapfest and I'm gonna get my money's worth one way or another. Roll


Pls send us info where we can send you those 15$ .You made such drama over 1.1 mil bounty on you and you didnt even bother to read patch notes. BOUNTY IS NOT SAME AS KILL RIGHTS !!!!.Do you think anyone will bother to hunt you in high sec for that amount that most of players in this game earn in like 60 seconds?

First of all before join any game check are you able to read and understand any what is written about game .Than you have nice trial period to check how things are going, and than you ask again and take time like few day to see is that game you want to play.Please spare us all here from your rant about something that is like normal day for us in EVE,

OP placed bounty on my Tengu pilot too and I just smiled and well who cares,when I go some day duel with someone on that pilot that guy will get 1.1 mil so who cares.

But to OP now.Yes you had load of fun today ,but you went over the line in one moment.Cause on start was funny,but some players got almost 100 mil bounties in help chanell that is good place for new players that are seeking advice.That is not ok ,it is ok trolling with small amounts but some ppl reacted and that was expected.

Also some old players that are well known helpers there and really great people got not less then 10 mil bounties.Dont get me wrong trolling a bit is fun ,but I am afraid by overdoing in trolling players that followed your example removed some rare people from that place that were even better than any of ISD folks.
Derek Quaid
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-12-04 20:27:46 UTC
For those who are interested, I provide an anonymous bounty service. I'm happy to throw the hate mail in the garbage without ever reading it.

CEO, Discreet Bounties In-game Channel: Discreet Bounties
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#37 - 2012-12-04 20:29:19 UTC
Sol Kouvo wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Sol Kouvo wrote:
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Came to me earlier that CCP should have put a "Reason for:" attached to the bounty. People can't change their ways if they don't know why the newspaper hit them on the nose.


For me the reason was being so inconsiderate as to say hello. I guess in EVE people get hit with the newspaper simply because other people are sadistic asshats who enjoy hiting people with a newspaper just for the sake of hitting them..

Seriously this is a game for cyber bullys, I hope CCP fails miserably.


Two things I can tell about you (unless you're trolling). You are new AND you didn't read up on EVE online before downloading it. EVE is well known for its....unique..... community (which wasn't an accident, Iceland experienced a drop in violent crime in the early 2000s, because all the evil criminal psycos were EVE online DEVs).

Hell what most MMOs call Griefing, EVE online calls Tuesday night.



It's no one else's fault that you've chosen to play a game before understanding what it was really about.

You're absolutely right, I should have spent more time to figure out that EVE Online is nothing more than a 10 year old highly repetitive video game with psychopathic trolls for a community who enjoy inflicting pain and misery on others "for the lulz". Sorry I'm just not used to video games being so stressful and predatory.

If CCP had any integrity they would warn new players about what kind of community they are getting into before they sign up, but I have a feeling that level of honesty might eventually bankrupt a company that only releases a new video game once a decade.


you'd fit in well with out resident carebear community, who like you seems to think someone else should do anything requringe effort (such as knowing something about the game and community BEFORE joining it) for them.

Everything one needs to know about what EVE is is just a google away. Again, that you did not do that before hand is your fault and no one elses.
Anslo
Scope Works
#38 - 2012-12-04 20:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Quote:
you'd fit in well with out resident carebear community, who like you seems to think someone else should do anything requringe effort (such as knowing something about the game and community BEFORE joining it) for them.

Like angry "hard core" players who expect spell check to catch their mistakes.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-12-04 20:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Reidar Oskald
Anslo wrote:
Quote:
you'd fit in well with out resident carebear community, who like you seems to think someone else should do anything requringe effort (such as knowing something about the game and community BEFORE joining it) for them.

Like angry "hard core" players who expect spell check to catch they're mistakes.


Or Communistic Miners and THEIR grammatical mistakes.

Reidar
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#40 - 2012-12-04 20:36:14 UTC
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Quote:
you'd fit in well with out resident carebear community, who like you seems to think someone else should do anything requringe effort (such as knowing something about the game and community BEFORE joining it) for them.

Like angry "hard core" players who expect spell check to catch they're mistakes.


Or Communistic Miners and THEIR grammatical mistakes.

Reidar


No such thing as Communistic.

You're right about his grammatical error however, and I was going to point that out before you beat me to it.