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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#1 - 2012-12-03 15:31:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Gibbo3771
Not sure if this pre-release EFT is wrong but....

[Scythe, wdw]
[empty low slot]
[empty low slot]
[empty low slot]
[empty low slot]
[empty low slot]

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Transporter
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Transporter
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Transporter


This here is over PG by a whopping 40, with only 20 odd CPU to spare with 8 slots left to fill.

Is this right? or is EFT broke, it seems sorta pointless we need to fit a ton of fitting mods to make it work, why not just reduce slot count and increase resources to match?..lol.

Edit: Assuming a similar fit Scimitar, the only difference between the 2 is fitting, a Scyth gets more range on the reppers with more rep power, just to note ofc, not practical due to the terribad fitting which suggests you are supposed to fit teribad small transporters.
Alara IonStorm
#2 - 2012-12-03 15:54:47 UTC
Well the faction mods suck about 45% more CPU then Meta 4 and I think this ship was more built for an AB in mind not a MWD like most current Logi.

Something like this probably.

[Scythe, Tank 1]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Reaction Control I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I
10MN Afterburner II

Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x4

[Scythe, Tank 2]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium 'Atonement' Ward Projector

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x4

You can pull a MWD.

[Scythe, Speed]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Reaction Control I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II

Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x4

I haven't flown Logi so my fits are probably wonky but I think this is the general direction they are going for.
Wuxi Wuxilla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-03 15:54:58 UTC
My EFT shows 412.5/412.5 PG and 408/518.75 CPU with that setup.

Besides that meta4 transporter need far less CPU/PG (although they're somewhere between small A-Types and medium C-Types in repping)
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-12-03 15:56:15 UTC
is eft even up to date with this release?

No Worries
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#5 - 2012-12-03 15:57:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Gibbo3771
ChromeStriker wrote:
is eft even up to date with this release?


There is a pre-release on last page of EFT.

I also presumed the Scythe was designed to be flown the same way a Scimi, get range, get it fast, supply reps.
It seems a bit overkill that it has THAT many lowslots with the only choice being cap relays.

EDIT :Also I can assure you NONE of the above fits will ever fit without Co-pros/Reactor Controls.

EDIT AGAIN: ingore above, taking off the C type reppers make it a little easier to manage but bring the rep power down a lot.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#6 - 2012-12-03 16:03:16 UTC
[Scythe, wdw]
Internal Force Field Array I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Co-Processor II

10MN Afterburner II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I

Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Transporter
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Transporter
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Transporter

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Just really wish you could fit an MWD without raping the fit, cap booster is not really an option unless you fit dual smalls but that would sorta suck tbh.
Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#7 - 2012-12-03 16:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Mayhem
[Scythe, AB large]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Cap Recharger II
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I



Cap-stable
+Range 92.4km
+Reps more than your fit
+20mil ISK, so half price of your fit
-9k EHP less
-no ECCM, but since you are floating @ 90km range, it's not that needed
Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#8 - 2012-12-03 17:00:39 UTC
Oh and MWD fit, not sure why you find Scythe difficult to fit:

[Scythe, MWD T2]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Medium Shield Transporter II
Medium Shield Transporter II
Medium Shield Transporter II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#9 - 2012-12-03 17:11:47 UTC
Jack Mayhem wrote:
Oh and MWD fit, not sure why you find Scythe difficult to fit:

[Scythe, MWD T2]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Medium Shield Transporter II
Medium Shield Transporter II
Medium Shield Transporter II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I



Seems like I was revolving the fits around deadspace reppers too much, currently they are pretty cheap so assumed it would be smart/logical.
Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#10 - 2012-12-03 17:19:56 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:

Seems like I was revolving the fits around deadspace reppers too much, currently they are pretty cheap so assumed it would be smart/logical.


Not that cheap - 3 such reppers cost the same as 2 completely fitted T2-fit ships. Plus the supply seems scarce.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#11 - 2012-12-03 17:31:36 UTC
Jack Mayhem wrote:
Gibbo3771 wrote:

Seems like I was revolving the fits around deadspace reppers too much, currently they are pretty cheap so assumed it would be smart/logical.


Not that cheap - 3 such reppers cost the same as 2 completely fitted T2-fit ships. Plus the supply seems scarce.


Last time I used pithum c type med transporters they only cost 1mil at best lol.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-03 23:34:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalha Saldana
This is how you fit a MWD cap stable with decent tank.

[NEW Scythe, MWD]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Cap Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

NEW Medium 'Atonement' Ward Projector
NEW Medium 'Atonement' Ward Projector
NEW Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Also this is how you fit AB, you will need some tank so those above fits are terrible.

[NEW Scythe, AB]
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

NEW Medium 'Atonement' Ward Projector
NEW Medium 'Atonement' Ward Projector
NEW Medium 'Atonement' Ward Projector

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Idicious Lightbane
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-04 11:53:56 UTC
[Scythe, MWD Stable]

Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Cap Recharger II
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I

Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I