EVE General Discussion

I never really thought the CSM was a particularly good idea to begin with. A quote unquote "counsel of stellar management" always had to have been a marketing tool. I also never really "got" why CCP has such a problem understanding the very game that they design. By that same token... I also never understood why the EVE University had to be created by actual players, and no such establishment ever sprung up as a part of the actual gaming design. The best we got were those stupid certificates.


It's now in style to say that EVE is a "sand box so deal with it", but after you get done drooling on the floor you can't help but recognize that if the NPC corporations were more like "schools" of some kind, EVE would have much better new player retention. That would be better for everyone, including CCP's bottom line... their revenue stream.



A + B = CCP

If CCP Alliance was an actual alliance playing the game, complete with real alliance concerns, maybe CCP would "get" their game a little better. Lead by someone at CCP HQ, and populated with a few GM's and any number of real life subscribers, it could easily be a nifty little feature that would allow the people in charge to see the game as we see it.


Let a hired GM appoint a recruiter
FC fleets
Deal with other alliances
& get blobbed by supercapitals



This would give CCP positive, indisputable and real time feedback about the game. Why they choose to get this information from a hand full of "elected players" doesn't make much sense to me. Just like I don't understand why they have chosen to create a "help channel" but no "helpful corporations" like E-uni, where the masses can get a foothold on EVE life with a guiding hand.



They Could Still Market It As A Harsh Universe


While improving their bottom line...
It is after all about how much money they rake in... and they rake in allot. An actual team of Dev's openly playing the game along side other players, would do more for this game then any "counsel" possibly could. I also believe that if they just took a little bit of time to approach new people and assist them, we would have way more people staying (and loving) this game.



my 2cents.

I have found that formatting posts like this keeps peoples attention better then a wall of text.

Sure it does.

Does NOT!

You felt the need to start a forum topic about something that has forum topics already started about it why?


Reported for topic spam, and your idea is dumb, they're cutting staff, they aren't going to pay for staff, coupled with the fact that CCPs stance has always been "Give the players the tools, and see what they do with them". Hence EvE Uni being a player run operation, not some half baked thing CCP created.

Maybe you're in the wrong game?

I think he's in the wrong game...CCP has always given us the means, we just have to figure out the end. I'd rather CCP listen to us and not try to cook something like this up.

Also...why did you feel the need for another thread, as specified above?

Has most of the same problems as the CSM, paired with the fact that a CCP alliance would obviously have advantages over any other player alliance.

...do you actually follow what the CSM is doing or are you just pulling that garbage out of your ***?

Seriously.

You lost me right after saying "quote unquote" and then actually quoting and unquoting it with quotation marks.

Its all self absorbed drivel