Science & Industry

I have a high SP building alt that is really good, been training him for a long time now but never got to using it for what I intended him to do. I am looking into buying the ore required for a ship with high ML and PE and building, than selling them. I have 10b capital on me to buy research POS's and the originial blueprints, but I have one question. Even with the good skills my alt has at building will I still be able to produce profits from just buying the ore and building the ship (T1 Hull)? I am going to set up buy orders, not go "retail" by just buying the ore straight in jita sell orders. Thank you for helping me out here, I just don't want to invest alot of isk into something to be in a deficite.

means he has production eff. at V, wich is the only relevant skill to ML

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honestly? if you have to ask that and cant find that out by yourself, im afraid the answer will be "No"

There is a huge difference between useless comments and honest comments.

shar'ra matcevsovski has a valid point... this information, especially when dealing with something as simple as T1 hulls is trivial to get and calculate with a small bit of effort.

And you should never invest your isk based on some randoms suggestion without doing your own math first.

Yes, In Jita the difference between buying minerals from sell orders or from setting your own buy orders can be the difference between making a profit or losing money. Like wise selling your end product to buy orders or setting up your own sell orders can be an even bigger difference. That, HAving PE skill to 5, and researching your BPO's all seems to be part of your plan and will put you in a possition to make good profits on almost any T1 item even in Jita.

If you find profit margins are tight you may need to train some trade skills if you have not already to reduce transaction tax and broker fee's. This can make a big difference when selling high value items.

The only problem I see you running into is where will you manufacture? There are plenty of manufacturing slots in Jita. Especially if you are not worried about staying in 4-4 station. But this is not a reliable way to get slots as they can at times be short ques, but can and usually are very long que's from what I have seen.

Another option is manufacturing at your POS. This is of course of you can find a moon near Jita to place the POS at. Then you need to rent a office in a station in system to avoid keeping your valuable BPO's in the POS itself.

You seem to have a good plan in place to ensure decent profits off your manufacturing. The tricky part of selling manufactured items in Jita is not just building them at a profit, but keeping the logistics from cutting into those profits.

...lol, nope

Some T1 hulls have modest profit margins of 8% to 15%. Some may be very profitable (if you find any such, please tell me). Others are at a negative profit margin.

The buy-ore-for-cheap-haul-refine-sell-the-minerals routine can give you a profit of between 7% and 15%. Maybe a bit more (25% 'ish) at times like these when the mineral prices are crazy. There's a lot of hauling involved in this routine., though, and a lot of it is many, many short trips so you can just go AFK and come back and it's over.

If you do production on top of that, using the minerals for that instead of selling them directly, then that'll add to your profit margin, but not much. And you really have to look out for what to produce. It is not the case that all T1 hulls have the same profit margin. And probably that's not the case with T1 modules or T1 ammo either.

im affraid, your mixing up refining and reprocessing....

Thanks for the comments, I have further looked into this and found a profitable ship that will make a good amount of isk and be able to pay for logistics. I am looking to talk to corps instead of buy orders, it is less of a ***** compared to sitting at Jita fighting a trade bot over it. I actually do have Eve Isk Builder, the app, I have already mapped out some ships and found profitable and not so much ships so far, including some modules, this being in response to the comment up top about getting the application. I am working a logistics plan out now and should be fine, not undermanned. Keep the comments and opinions coming though, really helping me out here and I'm pretty sure there are other people out here looking to do the same thing as me!

David,

T1 Hull Manufacture is easily profitable. The problem is anyone with Industry 1 can build the same thing you're building.... when you think of it in those terms the competition is ENORMOUS! I just want to suggest you research very carefully before you sink 10 Billion into a swamped market.

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I have not looked so much into modules and ammunition so while I got some time to spare I am going to take a look, I am training this guy to a Obelisk to help out but of course I am going to need more logistics to make it more easy on me in which I am working on now.Thanks for the answers.