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Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-02 14:06:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Yvormessier
The Offer :-

I'm offering 20 x 50m bonds

The Interest :-

Each bond will receive interest of 1.25m per week(now increased to 2m per week)

The business plan :-

The 1b isk will be used for trading.

Can I trust you ? :-

No. You can't trust anybody in Eve.

So why should I invest ?

Well 50m is hardly an earthmoving amount of isk to risk and this just might be legit.

Can you be a bit more persuasive?

Well I just started playing Eve and I discovered you can make as much isk doing a single trade while you are offline as you can make running a mission for 15mins while online. So I thought the more isk I have then the more offline trades I can make hence this post.(I'm actually a returning player starting from scratch. Possibly I should have made this clear from the outset but there is nothing particularly ominous about the fact that I didn't)
Demolishar
United Aggression
#2 - 2012-12-02 14:51:44 UTC
Quote:

Can I trust you ? :-

No. You can't trust anybody in Eve.


K, that's that then.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-12-02 16:58:17 UTC
looks like we have a fast learner here...

http://eve-live.com/p/Yvormessier
(set rows to 500 to see the full history)

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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-03 06:30:56 UTC
Yvormessier wrote:

Can I trust you ? :-

No. You can't trust anybody in Eve.


Of course you can, but you certainly shouldnt trust somebody who cant be arsed to type nothing but some lame one-liners when explaining why the reader should invest...

shar'ra phone home

Riker Atros
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-03 07:08:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Riker Atros
lol, 15 day old toon, NPC corp,

first post is this, hmmm seems legit. lol


not to mention , most "newbies" would never have figured out the "market" and other scams like this so fast lol.


MOST of the time, in order for a newbie to learn about a scam... is well... to get scammed lol

and wtf is up with his bio?
Luxotor
This Cyno Will Eventually Make Sense
#6 - 2012-12-03 15:28:37 UTC
0/10.

Pass.

THE NIGHT IS DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS!

Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-12-03 16:07:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Beckie DeLey
On your next alt, aim higher.

Seriously now, scamming for one lousy bill? You can do better.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.

Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-12-03 16:07:32 UTC
-- oops --

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.

Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-04 17:33:19 UTC
Oh well I'll just have to make my own way in the world :)

Thanks for all the positive comments and help :P

This is my main and only character..............

Ok I might have been economical with the truth about just 'starting' Eve but surely in any game you are allowed to start from 'fresh'?
Riker Atros
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-12-06 22:00:07 UTC
Yvormessier wrote:
... economical ?



I guess that's another way to put it
Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-12-07 15:05:22 UTC
Despite the rather less than positive response so far this investment opportunity is still open. It has been alleged that this character is an alt. I can only counter this allegation by offering a full api key to anybody interested in investing. I'm not sure how to do this but in the event of anyone being interested in investing I'll find out.
Every One
Triglavian Directive
S h a d o w
#12 - 2012-12-13 15:53:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Every One
Yvormessier wrote:

... this just might be legit.
Well I just started playing Eve ...

Very convincing.....it's not that I don't trust you, the problem is that you might not be able to make any profit being so new.
Ra'Shyne Viper
Native Freshfood
#13 - 2012-12-13 19:02:03 UTC
heres the deal, you send me 50mil and ill send you 100mil, you send me 500mil, ill fill your bond offer.

i expect an answer in the near future, my isk goes fast

DUST 514 player

Ingame name: Vin Vicious

Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-12-18 06:28:12 UTC
Every One wrote:
Yvormessier wrote:

... this just might be legit.
Well I just started playing Eve ...

Very convincing.....it's not that I don't trust you, the problem is that you might not be able to make any profit being so new.


I've just completed my 1st month during which time I've made 600m(Starting with 5k). I've hit a bottleneck atm in that I'm short of slots. I have retail5 in training which ends in 5 days and I will then be able to get wholesale to lvl3 in a day which will more or less triple my slots.

I expect to make 2-3b during my 2nd month.

I currently have 609m in buy orders 315m in sell orders and 59m in my wallet(I have margin trading3)

In another few weeks I will be self sufficient and won't really need any funding

Jeyson Vicious
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-20 05:47:07 UTC
I am curious about the investment banker business so I'll match Viper's offer. Send it** with terms and I'll reply back tomorrow during the day.

Send 100m and I'll give 400m. Also send payback+ terms. And I'll keep you honest with posts to this thread. Build your rep or not.
Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-12-20 07:06:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Yvormessier
Jeyson Vicious wrote:
I am curious about the investment banker business so I'll match Viper's offer. Send it** with terms and I'll reply back tomorrow during the day.

Send 100m and I'll give 400m. Also send payback+ terms. And I'll keep you honest with posts to this thread. Build your rep or not.



This is an 'offer' ?Roll

Since my last post I now have 1.25b in buy orders. Just waiting for retail5 to finish training to really get the pot boiling.

Would still appreciate any genuine investors since a trader can never have too much working capital.
Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-03 10:21:42 UTC
I would just like to report on my trading progress since my last post.

I'm currently training wholesale4 which ends in 3 days after which I'll train wholesale5 which will give me access to tycoon.

I currently have margin trading3 marketing4 daytrading4 accounting4 and broker relations3. Obviously getting broker relations4 and margin trading4 are important but it's a question of priorities atm.

i was running lvl3 missions but have abandoned missions for the time being because my poor drone and gunnery skills made my myrmidon a bit of a glass cannon. As soon as I finish training trade skills I will starting training pve combat skills and restart running missions in tandem with my trading.

As of today I have :- 1.588b buy orders, 1.438b sell orders, 509m in escrow(1.041b isk needed to cover) and 178m in my wallet.

This investment offer is still open but in recognition of the 'perceived' high level of risk I've decided to up the interest offered to 4% per week. I will edit the original post to reflect this.
Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-01-12 09:16:39 UTC
This offer is still open.

My current NAV is approximately 3.3b
Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-12 09:46:03 UTC
I have reviewed my original post and I've realised one of the questions/answer is rather problematic :-

"Can I trust you ? :-

No. You can't trust anybody in Eve."

Well obviously I wouldn't be making this offer if i didn't think I was trustyworthy and I think with the benefit of hindsight that my answer to this question has been misinterpreted and which may be the reason for the lack of interest.

So for the record I would like to state :-

I am a genuine trader with genuine trading ambitions in Eve. Those ambitions will be realisable much more quickly with the help of outside investments. It is not in my interest either in the short or long term to do anything which might damage my reputation as a trader of integrity.

So yes you can trust me but essentially it has to be a bit of blind trust based on the facts of my offer rather then any reputation I have since I don't have any atm.
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
#20 - 2013-01-12 13:02:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Coffee
This is the modern EVE :)

With the amount of scamming going on around, people aren't going to trust anyone without a clean sheet of 5+ years record.
Besides, the only reason I see for people to get involved in bonds is to see the bond issuer's API and the stuff they're up to. Not like 50m or even 1b a month would make any difference for people possessing hundreds of billions anyway.

The funny this is, these very same people will become a victim of a scam shall you present them a great "plan" with pictures, graphs and naked women. You know, people like being scammed with a little bit of style :)

So in case you really want to get back into EVE and a try marketing as a fresh reload of your legacy, it's much easier to grind your way to initial capital than posting here. Well unless you're not an alt of some.. ehrm.. "famous 3rd party guy", in that case you'd get a bunch of buttlickage.

- Regards, Claire.

[b]DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy[/b]

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