Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Posts have been removed for breaching the above rules. Thread is also being moved from GD to F&I - ISD Type40.

It is an unnecessary role that reduces the risk and effort involved in conducting 0.0 warfare.
They weren't added to fulfill a role, they were added as a "Jesus Feature" back when CCP didn't fix things, it added more broken things.



We are not going to turn this into a "remove 0.0 local" thread.
It has been beated to death, and if you don't like local, go into a WH somewhere and get out of the 0.0/lowsec threads. Thank you.

Lol and I had already created a thread discussing this issue as well in F&I

Titan bridge changes

I imagine they'll get merged soon now.

But I tossed up discussion on pro removing it, but also to be fair options to balance it.

As the risk V reward for titan bridging is completely unbalanced.

Probably my favorite idea I popped up was to keep the bridge. Allow it not to be used within a POS shield or near, repurpose the titan a bit to change its solo purpose as being a tool for reducing the grind for SOV warfare and in order to use its bridge an alliance must acquire 2 titans One to "open" the bridge on each side. Rather than just literally catapulting forces safely from behind your castle walls ontop of the unsuspecting. It now turns into a literal vulnerable bridge that comes with risk for being able to instantly deploy your forces onto the battlefield

I had a 70 page thread in GD about local chat it was there for 2 weeks guess With isd removing troll post out of it and leaving it there guess witch isd moved that one as well.

*chuckles and thinks of his time in wormholes*

Any idea with mass adding mass limits or effecting how many ships can jump through a single titan is a terrible idea and wont get you the effect you hope for, if you want to nerf bridges the solution is to cause the titan to be put in harms way somehow, though i don't think having it jump on field is exactly a problem solver either, The "cant bridge in pos shields" is probably the most sensible idea i've seen so far.

But all that aside, why does it actually need nerfed? What possible role would the titan have afterwards? this is, yet again. another case of "i cant counter this ccp, so nerf it plox!"

And for anyone saying " but..but... we cant get a titan on grid!"
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15271645
Those guys baited a titan with a thanatos on a gate, and i've been part of a 2 man fleet where a titan would jump in and DD a lone carrier in a belt or at a safe. it happens, people just need to stop depending on ccp to nerf things when they can't spend two minutes solving the issue themselves.

Mass limitations is not a solution. Larger alliances, the ones who blob the crap out of you now, will just bite the bullet and tack on a few players/alts to feed the titan fuel for more bridges needed. Haulers formed up right next ot the titan for inflight refueling as it were. Blob alliance instead of dropping 200 shipsa at once, just feeds 50 at a time (to pick 50 out of thin air).

In just a short time span what effect does this have? They still dropped 200 ships. Unless you are instapping each 50 hot drop shot....the tide is jsut rolling in. Only kill 10 of the first 50, poof you got the 40 survivors and the fresh 50. Kill ten more its now 80 survivors and the new 50 in the system next bridge.

And this is not even stretch on current ways to run the titan. Its done now. Expecting a meat grinder operation generally there is a titan in the staging system already with his fuel suppliers in place. His job is to keep on sending off the players who got podded in the meat grinder and woke up back at home/staging system. Reship. go see titan, and back to the front.

End result is this ain't hurting the large alliances. Adds some fuel costs to the op and some ships will have ot play gas pump jockey. They got the isk to burn and the personnel to field the ships. Smaller alliances may not however.

It needs to be nerfed or changed because of the risk v reward in using the current titan bridge system. I.E. there is no risk for these massive 30billion isk ships. Whose true power and current purpose comes from catapulting hundreds of fighters into a battlefield from the safety of a POS thats in itself in the safety deep inside its own territory.

Even Carriers must exit the POS shields to deploy their fighters, yet a titan can hide behind a pos shield outside the warzone even and launch a fleet of several hundred into a raging battle. The greatest risk from that bridge is purely the ship that's carrying the cyno

No one says titans cant be killed, but as everyone argues their only purpose is to bridge and if they can do that safely inside a POS how often does someone get a chance to kill one? Outside of managing to bait one, rarely are they used in actual combat or must suffer any risk at all to utilize their "only" purpose.

Only argument i've seen that theres nothing wrong with the titan bridge has been purely "stop complaining we like it" but i havent actually seen any present any legit argument that its a balanced module in the way its currently being used

why you think its goten out of hand? Becouse we can fast travel? Shut the hell up hotdrps are fun yea they are used alot more now than before thats becouse everyman and his dog has a titan nothing wrong in that its progresion if you cant handle it or cant get a tiran for your own group then go back to lvl4'S

And yes i rember the time before jump bridges/ super caps / j-frieghters and carriers and yes i hated warp to 0 and jumpbridges as they killed 0.0 trade lanes and choke points but eve is a progressive game allways advancing and changeing we cant go back to the way it was

simple solution to hotdrop is counter hot drop if you cant handle it move if you want somthing in eve and hold onto it you have to fight for it but latly all i see are whineing pansys crying for nurfs go play wow if you cant deal with the harshness of eve


man up or gtf

They hardly get used Because they're so useless at everything else, You're literally taking the one thing a titan can do. and trying to nerf it to the ground. also titans don't cost "30billion isk" they cost triple that, and depend on actual titan type and fittings,Quadruple that.

i can slightly agree with the whole pos situation, but i don't think there's anything wrong with the titan, or bridging in itself, just the way eve has evolved.