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Wanting to train into Minnie BS, how should I start?
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Jim Roebuck
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-02 07:04:58 UTC
Basically, since this guy is primarily Caldari ships on the missile side, I'm looking for training into Minnie BS 4, along with the appropriate skills to fly them. I find no need to attempt to train into Strat. cruisers due to my low SP right now and I will be humiliated if I attempt to fit and fly one.

Here's a list of skills to look at: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Jim_Roebuck

When Bon Scott died and he appeared before St. Peter at the gates of Heaven, St. Peter looked at his record and told him he couldn't get in. Just then, God screams at Peter, "Let him in, Karen Carpenter is driving me nuts. I want to hear some music with balls. We'll haggle over the paperwork later." At least I hope that's what happened.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#2 - 2012-12-02 07:47:22 UTC
Well, training everything that Evemon shows as required and recommended for typhoon/tempest/mael would be a good start :)

There is really no mystery about minnie ships, except projectiles being primary weapon system all others skills are still useful.

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Jim Roebuck
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-12-02 08:02:24 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Well, training everything that Evemon shows as required and recommended for typhoon/tempest/mael would be a good start :)

There is really no mystery about minnie ships, except projectiles being primary weapon system all others skills are still useful.


Well, I understand that it's easy to just get to Minnie BS 4 via training through the ships, but then you have the skills that are needed for fitting the weaponry, on top of the support skills.

When Bon Scott died and he appeared before St. Peter at the gates of Heaven, St. Peter looked at his record and told him he couldn't get in. Just then, God screams at Peter, "Let him in, Karen Carpenter is driving me nuts. I want to hear some music with balls. We'll haggle over the paperwork later." At least I hope that's what happened.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#4 - 2012-12-02 09:41:44 UTC
Minnie BS obviously mean large projectiles and specialization skill for them. Supports are few and consist of Trajectory Analysis, Surgical Strike, Sharpshooter, Rapid Firing, Motion Prediction. As for fitting Weapon Upgrades V and Advanced Weapon Upgrades IV if don't have it already. Beside that Projectile Weapon Rigging for rigs and you are golden. Last thing would be a decision whether you like auto cannons or artillery and train appropriately whatever you choose first.

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Dracan02
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#5 - 2012-12-03 03:43:59 UTC
train support and all the fitting skills as mini ships can be fitted in so many ways. I personal like the T2 arti shield maelstrom for anoms, its dps could be higher but it hits well out to +80km
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-12-03 15:29:08 UTC
Are you planning to use Minmatar BS's for PVP or PVE? Either way, the shield-tanking skills you get from using Caldari ships should serve you well, but if you're thinking PVP, you may also want to look into some armor skills (the Tempest has a decent armor slot pattern, though it's more often found with a buffer-shield/nanofiber/gank-lows setup). In any case, Shield Management V is a really good one to get, if you don't have it already (maximizes skill-based shield buffer and grants access to T2 Shield Boost Amplifiers).

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Jim Roebuck
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-03 21:37:39 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
Are you planning to use Minmatar BS's for PVP or PVE? Either way, the shield-tanking skills you get from using Caldari ships should serve you well, but if you're thinking PVP, you may also want to look into some armor skills (the Tempest has a decent armor slot pattern, though it's more often found with a buffer-shield/nanofiber/gank-lows setup). In any case, Shield Management V is a really good one to get, if you don't have it already (maximizes skill-based shield buffer and grants access to T2 Shield Boost Amplifiers).


I'm looking into using them for both PvP and PvE Incursioning.

When Bon Scott died and he appeared before St. Peter at the gates of Heaven, St. Peter looked at his record and told him he couldn't get in. Just then, God screams at Peter, "Let him in, Karen Carpenter is driving me nuts. I want to hear some music with balls. We'll haggle over the paperwork later." At least I hope that's what happened.
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-12-03 21:57:59 UTC
Train salavaging V.
Alexander Aramis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-04 10:18:28 UTC
Have a look at the core competency certificates (also available in game). Here is a link to the standard one: http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Core_Competency_-_Standard

These certificates provides standard guidelines for useful support skills. 'Core' refers to skills which benefits all ship types, thus they are engineering and electronics skills etc.

The tanking certificates might provide nice guidelines too.
DZeeta
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-12-04 10:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: DZeeta
Maelstrom uses projectiles and shield tank.
Tempest uses projectiles and armor tank.
Typhoon uses missiles/projectiles and armor tank.

Basically get tank up to use T2 modules of given tank type, then add some minor drone skills and after that bump as much EP as possible into gunnery.

Just a side question: Why exactly are you going after minmatar ships? You could train Caldari+Amarr or Caldari+Gallente for some uber pirate faction ships.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#11 - 2012-12-04 11:21:18 UTC
DZeeta wrote:
Just a side question: Why exactly are you going after minmatar ships? You could train Caldari+Amarr or Caldari+Gallente for some uber pirate faction ships.


My Mach would like to have a word with you :)

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Jim Roebuck
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-12-04 14:42:58 UTC
DZeeta wrote:

Just a side question: Why exactly are you going after minmatar ships? You could train Caldari+Amarr or Caldari+Gallente for some uber pirate faction ships.


Because I rarely ever fly Minmatar.


Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:
Train salavaging V.


That's a lower priority.

Also, 1/10.

When Bon Scott died and he appeared before St. Peter at the gates of Heaven, St. Peter looked at his record and told him he couldn't get in. Just then, God screams at Peter, "Let him in, Karen Carpenter is driving me nuts. I want to hear some music with balls. We'll haggle over the paperwork later." At least I hope that's what happened.
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-12-04 20:44:54 UTC
Jim Roebuck wrote:
DZeeta wrote:

Just a side question: Why exactly are you going after minmatar ships? You could train Caldari+Amarr or Caldari+Gallente for some uber pirate faction ships.


Because I rarely ever fly Minmatar.


Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:
Train salavaging V.


That's a lower priority.

Also, 1/10.


Didn't you know, Minnie ships can be salvaged before they go *pop*.