EVE General Discussion

Hopefully never. It doesn't fit in EVE, and provides zero value-add.

So I think a good clue to the priority of WiS and some of the things that scuttled it are that instead of reassigning folks from WoD to WiS they were let go and WoD is on life support. If WiS mattered (or could even be done with most current hardware with the engine they chose) the WoD folks would have been put on WiS as part of the refocus.

What I think happened we CCP started to realize that the character animation engine they bet the farm on was great for a simple single character cloth demonstration but could never scale to true massively multiplayer using any hardware known to man. They REALLY screwed up on the technology path they chose.

When I was in the CSM and meeting the devs I was really interested in seeing how "graphics savy" the devs I encountered were. I came from that space profesionally and have meet the smartest folks in the world in regards to 3D graphics. Lets just say I understood why when I was involved in working on the next generation of grahics technology CCP was never one of the companies we talked about meeting with. Graphics is not their thing.

They bet huge on a gamble to make them "best in class" but didn't have the experience to realize what they wanted to do couldn't scale or be commercially deployable any time soon. In fact the trends in the PC industry make it even less likely that most future PCs would be any better at really being able to support what they intended to deliver (PC graphics in most common PCs are pretty stagnent, yes, you can see better and better add in cards but the fact is integrated chipsets are the most common and the market is telling most manufacurers that they are "good enough").

So my guess is that WiS should be considered DOA unless CCP decides to reset and start again with different base technologies. Given that the loudest of the player base seem the hate WiS that seems pretty unlikely.

Issler

Repeating that like a mantra doesn't exactly make it true.

Hellmar interview with Eurogamer more or less answers the OP's question. For the most part, it seems like Incarna might be put aside for quite some time.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-21-eurogamer-interviews-ccps-hilmar-petursson-interview

Then why can't CCP ******* man up and just say that there will be no new Incarna stuff for a long time. This is all I'm wanting, some certainty.

Jade is right ofc, CCP didnt really have a plan for real EVE style gameplay within the full body avatar environment, and more importantly, they never leveraged EVE gameplay into incarna features.

Some time ago I started this thread on what I would like to see. Although admittedly, the prospects look very bleak lol.

Yep.

The sad bit here is CCP believes the playerbase doesn't want station environments when the reality is they simply don't want to be pigeonholed into a one-room closet.

The concept isn't garbage, the implementation was just horrible. it would be a shame to see the technology go to waste.

Main line from that interview to take note of, in terms of answering the op's question is this one,

"Hilmar Pétursson: We're releasing the racial variants of the Captain's Quarters this year and that's mainly because we had that work completed. It also includes some optimisations and other fixes. I think the community has spoken loud and clear that they want more classical Eve features to come out, and that's the priority for us. Incarna is there, and we might pick it up at some point later down the line, but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "

It was a cool idea but implemented poorly. The graphics engine needs to be toned down so we can interact with other players in stations. But this has zero game play and only social aspects. Hopefully it is gone for a long time.