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Freighters for mining ops anyone?
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YuuKnow
The Scope
#1 - 2012-12-01 19:34:11 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73995

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Freighters will have most of their special-case restrictions removed: they will now be able to perform cargo operations in space, including moving items into and out of containers, moving things to and from containers in space, and jettisoning items


Looks like for group mining, seeing a freighter in hi-sec mining ops will be the new thing.

yk
Dave stark
#2 - 2012-12-01 19:36:44 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73995

Quote:
Freighters will have most of their special-case restrictions removed: they will now be able to perform cargo operations in space, including moving items into and out of containers, moving things to and from containers in space, and jettisoning items


Looks like for group mining, seeing a freighter in hi-sec mining ops will be the new thing.

yk


i'm sorry, i seem to have missed the part where freighters also get 3 high slots for the mining ganglinks.
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-12-01 19:38:30 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73995

Quote:
Freighters will have most of their special-case restrictions removed: they will now be able to perform cargo operations in space, including moving items into and out of containers, moving things to and from containers in space, and jettisoning items


Looks like for group mining, seeing a freighter in hi-sec mining ops will be the new thing.

yk


i'm sorry, i seem to have missed the part where freighters also get 3 high slots for the mining ganglinks.


useing them as mobile jet cans for mass hauling is an awsome idea :)
Dave stark
#4 - 2012-12-01 19:43:53 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73995

Quote:
Freighters will have most of their special-case restrictions removed: they will now be able to perform cargo operations in space, including moving items into and out of containers, moving things to and from containers in space, and jettisoning items


Looks like for group mining, seeing a freighter in hi-sec mining ops will be the new thing.

yk


i'm sorry, i seem to have missed the part where freighters also get 3 high slots for the mining ganglinks.


useing them as mobile jet cans for mass hauling is an awsome idea :)


so you mean, like an orca but without the bonuses?
YuuKnow
The Scope
#5 - 2012-12-01 19:48:48 UTC  |  Edited by: YuuKnow
Dave stark wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
YuuKnow wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73995

Quote:
Freighters will have most of their special-case restrictions removed: they will now be able to perform cargo operations in space, including moving items into and out of containers, moving things to and from containers in space, and jettisoning items


Looks like for group mining, seeing a freighter in hi-sec mining ops will be the new thing.

yk


i'm sorry, i seem to have missed the part where freighters also get 3 high slots for the mining ganglinks.


useing them as mobile jet cans for mass hauling is an awsome idea :)


so you mean, like an orca but without the bonuses?


Orca for bonuses. Freighters for hauling. I can imagine the AFK ice fields full on freighters now...
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#6 - 2012-12-01 19:50:02 UTC
Can see it happening with big mining corp. Command Ship, Freighter, Orca and a crapload of Hulks. Whole belts cleaned pretty darn quick.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
Dave stark
#7 - 2012-12-01 19:50:10 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
Orca for bonuses. Freighters for hauling. Duh.


orca for bonuses and hauling, freighter pilot sitting in a mining ship not being dead weight. duh.
Dave stark
#8 - 2012-12-01 19:51:56 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Can see it happening with big mining corp. Command Ship, Freighter, Orca and a crapload of Hulks. Whole belts cleaned pretty darn quick.


i can't. you're either jetcanning the ore (pain for a freighter to pick up as it doesn't have a tractor) or you're storing it in the orca, which means you'll have one orca load to haul at any given time. hence a freighter is still going to be useless.

i think people are vastly over-estimating the effect of this change. unless there are some secure, anchorable freight containers i'm unaware of, freighters won't really be that useful for mining ops.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-01 20:05:29 UTC
tractor beams and bonuses from orca

hauling with freighter

one freighter run equals 6 or 7 orca runs
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#10 - 2012-12-01 20:05:33 UTC
I think it's great. Imagine a massive mining op. The Orca is there for bonuses and collecting the ore, and a freighter is there storing. The more variety to the mining mechanism (group or otherwise) the better.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Dave stark
#11 - 2012-12-01 20:15:50 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
tractor beams and bonuses from orca

hauling with freighter

one freighter run equals 6 or 7 orca runs


i still want to know where you're putting all of this ore between freighter loads, in jetcans ripe to be flipped? or are you wasting a perfectly viable mining pilot by having him idling in a freighter all op?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-12-01 20:16:31 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
I think it's great. Imagine a massive mining op. The Orca is there for bonuses and collecting the ore, and a freighter is there storing. The more variety to the mining mechanism (group or otherwise) the better.


Imagine a few talos warping to belt after they saw your fleet mining for over an hours popping the freighter for the lulz.
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-12-01 20:24:21 UTC
easy orca there for bonus + tractoring in the ans for the frighter to pic up simples
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#14 - 2012-12-01 20:27:15 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
complaining

what are we suggesting something that will damage your control of the orca market or something Roll

wumbo
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-12-01 20:27:56 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
easy orca there for bonus + tractoring in the ans for the frighter to pic up simples


That freighter is equal to a 0 yield pilot. How do you people not get that? You will get more total ore out of an extra barge/exhumer than running a damn freighter.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#16 - 2012-12-01 20:29:34 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
easy orca there for bonus + tractoring in the ans for the frighter to pic up simples


That freighter is equal to a 0 yield pilot. How do you people not get that? You will get more total ore out of an extra barge/exhumer than running a damn freighter.


Some things aren't about max yields. Some things are about chillin out and making casual isk.

yk
Fryhilda
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-12-01 20:30:12 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
easy orca there for bonus + tractoring in the ans for the frighter to pic up simples


That freighter is equal to a 0 yield pilot. How do you people not get that? You will get more total ore out of an extra barge/exhumer than running a damn freighter.


Small amount of lazy isk > large amount of isk with effort.
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#18 - 2012-12-01 20:30:18 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:


Imagine a few talos warping to belt after they saw your fleet mining for over an hours popping the freighter for the lulz.



Nahhh, that wouldn't be griefing now would it, just for the lulz I mean. And you need alot more than a few talos.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
Dave stark
#19 - 2012-12-01 20:30:59 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
easy orca there for bonus + tractoring in the ans for the frighter to pic up simples


That freighter is equal to a 0 yield pilot. How do you people not get that? You will get more total ore out of an extra barge/exhumer than running a damn freighter.


but IT'S A FREIGHTER!

unless your op is big enough that you're filling an orca faster than it can warp to station, unload cargo, and warp back to belt there's 0 reason to have a freighter in a mining op. also, i hate to break it to them, however there's less ore in a high sec belt than there is cargo space in a freighter.

i've been stripping the same belt almost every day for almost a month or so straight now. depending on whether it's fully respawned or not i get anywhere between 200k-400k m3 of ore, i've never got over 500k m3 from the belt.
Dave stark
#20 - 2012-12-01 20:31:52 UTC
Fryhilda wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
easy orca there for bonus + tractoring in the ans for the frighter to pic up simples


That freighter is equal to a 0 yield pilot. How do you people not get that? You will get more total ore out of an extra barge/exhumer than running a damn freighter.


Small amount of lazy isk > large amount of isk with effort.


yeah, warping an orca to and from the station once per belt is really a lot of effort... you'd sacrifice an exhumer pilot to save yourself 1, maybe two warps to and from a belt, per belt?
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