Missions & Complexes

This change from the new Dec 4th patch has some serious implications to the lowsec 1v1 and small gang lifestyles in some regions, and being a resident of this community I'd like to point out an unfortunate side effect of this change.

I am totally behind the need for changes to the static plexes, right now someone can camp the final room, wait for the overseer to spawn, grab the loot and then cloak up effectively making it impossible to use. This issue with the game is abused everywhere and more so in highsec where there is minimal to no risk to ones ship.

Now here is my issue. In low sec (in particular I am referring to molden heath low sec) the locals have used these complexes as a great source of continuous PVP. The potential for good payoffs bring people to low security space since the highsec plexes are usually camped, and make it so that people risk ships. It generates a lot of frigate and cruiser pvp outside of factional warfare which is nice if you don't want to be involved in that. The draw is that these sites provide a gate with no gateguns that can very easily be found on the overview. This is attractive to anyone looking for pvp and as a result creates a unique environment in which combat is drawn to these systems where they are located because the first gate acts like a zero ground where everyone must pass through (again only in low sec). So by removing these complexes from the static state and making them be probed down, you are essentially for all intents and purposes making a HUGE reduction in some fairly consistent low sec pvp that many of us love.

Now here is my solution to combat the people who abuse the system and camp the payoff rooms. Firstly, make it so that the payoff room will not spawn the overseers when there are people in that room. This will make camping the room almost pointless. There is a risk here in that someone could cloak up and effectively make the room never spawn when they are AFK greatly affecting the value of the modules that are dropped from these complexes in their favor.
To combat this I have two simple suggestions.

1, make it so that all rooms of the complex (except the warp in and first room) will not allow people to activate cloaks (give fancy reason like "intense electromagnetic disturbances are preventing you from activating this module."
2, to fix the issue further, make it so the static complexes are only in low security space. This forces anyone who wants to make what is in all honesty good isk for a small effort put themselves at risk of being engaged in PVP.

Now this is NOT about luring carebears down to lowsec to get killed, so by all means do seed the 1/10 and 2/10 into the exploration profession as well and make it available in both low and high security space, but keep the static plexes that do exist in lowsec alive

I do believe that this will greatly curve the amount of abuse that these complexes currently undergo, while maintaining (and in fact increasing) the amount of PVP that the ones in low security space generate.

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i do not support the removal of static plexs. it helps maintain pvp in areas (especially our area of molden heath)
PLEASE LEAVE OUR CREO PLEX ALONE!

Low security space fight clubs......who knew

I for one have the same opinion ! Let them be !

I can see where you come from, and a friend of mine used to do his early pvp in the same way that you describe. I come from the other side and i have to say that i approve of this change (even tho i will probably not do those sites unless they show up in lowsec ... which would be strange).

I think it will be interesting to watch the market value of small c- and b-type modules in the coming months. Either there won't be much change, because of stockpiles - or prices will go up because of less supply. A good thing imo for explorers (those with probes anyway) - maybe it will even relieve some stress in highsec, because newer players can scan down an do the plexes in their frigates, while the hordes of tech 3 ships will go on hunting for the higher tier DED sites.

I am a bit ambivalent about the pvp 'arena' that you say those static plexes have become. Yes ship restrictions. On the other hand, i am pretty sure that for instance you would see to get away if you noticed a gang of frigates coming in. So, in a way you could just as well hang out at a belt or in one of the landmark beacons and work your dscan to decide if you want to take a fight or not - or just fleet the other guy and battle in a safespot. I did choose the word 'arena' there, and i think that is indeed partly what you want. It is also a very un-EVE-ish concept, just like instanced complexes would be.

As a veteran of Old Meanie, I support this product and/or service.

Signed, +1

Completely agree. Static 2/10's are one of the most competitive areas for some good frigate/destroyer pvp. DO NOT SCREW THIS GOOD SYSTEM UP CCP.

Ridiculous change!

Basically, these 2/10 are pretty much the most successful PvP feature in all of low-sec. The mechanic was used as a template poorly for faction warfare. Just stupid and misguided to get rid of these. It is not as if 'farming' them is all that profitable in low-sec. 25 million isk/hour is probably about all you can get.

I remember the days when you could find fights at belts. Now we won't even be able to get fights at these sites.

+1 DONT CHANGE LOW SEC 1/2 DEDs

Please give this game a chance to survive!

LM

Signed.