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typhoon rebalancing
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To mare
Advanced Technology
#1 - 2012-12-01 05:48:38 UTC
since the typhoon is getting rebalanced in the near future and ccp said they wanna turn it in a some sort of armor tanking short range raven to reduce a bit the skills required to fly the thing.
i assume the will remove the split weapon system on the highs slots givin the ship 6 launcher and only a bonus to launchers rof this will leave one free bonus to assign my idea is to give it a tp bonus.

long story short my idea for the new typhoon:
8H 6 launcher 4gun
4M
7L
125/175 drones
5% rof to launchers
7,5% bonus to target painters

same PG as current version
a tiny boost in cpu to fit all the 6 launchers and maybe some damage mods
Midnight Pheonix
The Corpening
#2 - 2012-12-01 05:56:20 UTC
Fozzie has been doing a remarkable job rebalancing the cruisers, destroyers, and frigates. If he even does 1/2 as good of job on the typhoon I'll be happy. I'm sure he has something in mind for the ship.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#3 - 2012-12-01 06:07:30 UTC
remarkable is really a big word considering now the rifter is worse at brawling than the slasher and pretty much all the other combat frigs, the bellicose wich is supposed to be a ewar cruiser is better than the stabber for combat duties, and to be really honest i dont see much of a point to use the ruppie over the other combat cruiser (even if its not bad like the stabber and rifter).

this just speaking about minmatar ship.
Midnight Pheonix
The Corpening
#4 - 2012-12-01 09:55:37 UTC
Apparently rebalancing 59 ships isn't remarkable. Your example is shortsighted as it only involves minmatar. I would gladly take the new ships over the old because now its not a situation where you fly minmatar or you die.

Anyways, about your OP I'll add one thing, when your the dev, you can come up with the numbers, until then...just leave it alone.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#5 - 2012-12-01 10:18:11 UTC
Midnight Pheonix wrote:
Apparently rebalancing 59 ships isn't remarkable. Your example is shortsighted as it only involves minmatar. I would gladly take the new ships over the old because now its not a situation where you fly minmatar or you die.

Anyways, about your OP I'll add one thing, when your the dev, you can come up with the numbers, until then...just leave it alone.


i was only speaking about minmatar to be short but there are many other ships that are/will be still useless
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#6 - 2012-12-01 16:39:24 UTC
fozzie bashing aside,

i too also hope that its a TP bonus...and i was also hoping they make a high slot TP

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Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-01 17:01:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Ted
I like the idea of it being a versatile hull. Being able to do either missles or guns effectively is a good idea since minmatar will have very few missle boats while skilling up (breacher and bellicose and that is it). It should also have maybe 2 more midslots letting it shield tank or armor tank. The ships uniqueness would come from its great speed only beaten by the mach.

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Gneeznow
Ship spinners inc
#8 - 2012-12-01 17:12:14 UTC
Not a fan of the typhoon rebalance, especially if they decide to turn it into a maelstrom lookalike like they are doing to minmatar ships at the moment, it's an iconic ship, it's had the crown of the-hardest-battleship-to-fly since practically day one of the game and the only time that people ever complained about it being imbalanced was in the nano era where the nos nanophoon was unstoppable.

I think the phoon is absolutely fine, for me personally it'll be a sad day when they change it, because it is a beast for high sp characters, and it's versatile and 'forgiving' for low sp characters to use. I was using one back when I had 700,000 sp in 2006 and I still use it today 6 years later, and the only change in that time is shield and armour values were reversed and it got an extra missile / turret hardpoint along the way.

tl;dr, it's an iconic ship that still busts heads like no other, don't change it, and don't give it the maelstrom paintjob that the tempest has got.
Sheynan
Lighting the blight
#9 - 2012-12-01 17:29:57 UTC
What the Typhoon needs is a net increase of the splitweapon bonus to 7,5%/lvl to missile and projectile ROF and a secondary bonus. Tracking/explosion velocity, speed or falloff/missile velocity come to mind.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#10 - 2012-12-01 23:23:30 UTC
yeah im not a fan of the typhoon rebalancing either i would like if it keep the split weapon system and i would love if the current bonus would updated to 7,5% but probably a 7,5% double bonus AND another extra bonus would be too much.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#11 - 2012-12-01 23:37:07 UTC
well if they do make it an attack bs i hope it wont be quicker than the mega and lower mass although its minmatar so the odds are......

Theres always the tempest they could develop to replace it but i doubt they want such split weapon ships anymore.
And on the rifter they could give it the stabber treatment to give it a role like a cheap T1 dramiel.

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#12 - 2012-12-02 01:16:52 UTC
Sheynan wrote:
What the Typhoon needs is a net increase of the splitweapon bonus to 7,5%/lvl to missile and projectile ROF and a secondary bonus. Tracking/explosion velocity, speed or falloff/missile velocity come to mind.


lol which would be massively over powered

Harvey James wrote:
well if they do make it an attack bs i hope it wont be quicker than the mega and lower mass although its minmatar so the odds are......

Theres always the tempest they could develop to replace it but i doubt they want such split weapon ships anymore.
And on the rifter they could give it the stabber treatment to give it a role like a cheap T1 dramiel.


the typhoon is the fastest and smallest (lowest sig) battleship in the game (save for the mach). and if memory serves, has a smaller sig than some BC's lol. if it was suddenly to become slower than the megathron it would make no sense.

the vast majority of phoons are torp fit with neuts. so i thought it could only be a good thing to help it fulfill this role further.
if a phoon had more slots to shield tank with, it would become a beast. too much of a beast.

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