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Caldari! To arms!
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-01 15:13:20 UTC
Brothers and sisters!

For last four years our State has risen from dust to glory. We are not afraid of Gallentes anymore. And we are not that small rebellious State, that was barely fighting for independence from gluttonous Federation two hundred years ago. Now we are the most advanced and feared superpower in the cluster. We walk among others as equal. We dared to attack that Federation by our own, and we got back our home planet, taken from us by greedy gallentes. And for all this we are obliged to one man - Tibus Heth. He is the real Hero of our State!

But our enemies are still strong. Yesterday an unknown scoundrel attempted to assassinate Tibus Heth. We have failed our Executor, but it's not the time when we should punish ourselves! Those who have to be punished are those, who oppose our glorious State, those, who don't want to see Caldari among them, those, who prefer a number of fighting with each other corporations instead of one strong State! Tibus Heth is risking his own life for all of us, and it is time, when we will give our lives to him! For together we are strong, together we are invincible!

It is time when we must take arms and stand firm to protect our State from all enemies, both internal and external. If you are Caldari and this means something to you, fight with us, fight against enemies, fight for the State and fight for Tibus Heth! He made us proud to be Caldari, and now it's our turn to make him proud with us, it is our turn to prove that we deserved to live in the State, that we are worthy to be called Caldari. Our ancestors are watching us, so lets earn their respect and eternal glory!

The time has come to prove your loyalty! Enlist yourself, your corporation or alliance today! We are opposed by numerous other capsuleers who are foolish enough to support rotten and crumbling Federation. It is still holding because of these dull capsuleers, who were seduced by indecent gallenteans ideals. But together we will crush them! We did it before and we will do it again. Purge Heydieles, purge Vlillirier and get rid of last remnants of gallentean scum in all systems of Black Rise! This is what we CAN do. And this is what we MUST do! With YOUR help! Join the State and write your names in annals of History!

To arms, citizens!
To arms!
We will avenge for this coward attack on our Executor
We will avenge for every drop of Caldari blood.
We will find all enemies of the State, foreign and domestic.
We will make them pay with their own blood.
We will show them the Strength of Caldari.
We will show them the Will of Caldari.
We will show them the Unity of Caldari.
And we will destroy them both on open fields and in their hiding holes.
As our ancestors did.
WITH FIRE AND STEEL!

And if you are unlucky enough to happen to be an enemy of the State or Tibus Heth, hear this:
RETRIBUTION IS COMING!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#2 - 2012-12-01 15:21:40 UTC
Ah, not your homeworld, if you want to play the ancestral game. Saisio III is your ancestral homeworld, is it not? Unless you were born on Caldari Prime and later migrated to the State. See, I'm from Caldari Prime, so I can actually call myself Caldari if I want. I sometimes do, in fact. But my ancestral homeworld is in Lirsautton, but also Caldari Prime on my father's side.

I mean, you know, even if you are an upstanding State citizen, you're talking about ancestral ties here, so you're not technically Caldari at all. So seeing this is a bit strange, is all. Like it would be stupendously hypocritical of me to take the Blaqueist approach who regard those descended from Gallente Prime as the true masters of the Federation. Granted, Blaqueists are a bit thick since no one is really one ethnicity anymore over on this side of the Border Zone.

Anyway, I'm sure Dear Leader is fine.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-12-01 15:21:45 UTC
Perhaps you forget, comrade, that many of us have no love for Heth. His rise, while necessary, should not be considered a call for a permanent state of emergency. The Big Eight are the true rulers of the State, and always have been.
Vikarion
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-01 15:25:43 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Ah, not your homeworld, if you want to play the ancestral game. Saisio III is your ancestral homeworld, is it not? Unless you were born on Caldari Prime and later migrated to the State. See, I'm from Caldari Prime, so I can actually call myself Caldari if I want. I sometimes do, in fact. But my ancestral homeworld is in Lirsautton, but also Caldari Prime on my father's side.

I mean, you know, even if you are an upstanding State citizen, you're talking about ancestral ties here, so you're not technically Caldari at all. So seeing this is a bit strange, is all. Like it would be stupendously hypocritical of me to take the Blaqueist approach who regard those descended from Gallente Prime as the true masters of the Federation. Granted, Blaqueists are a bit thick since no one is really one ethnicity anymore over on this side of the Border Zone.

Anyway, I'm sure Dear Leader is fine.


"Caldari" is a nationality as well as an ethnic desciption. I may not agree with Diana Kim, but she is as Caldari as I am, and Saisio is as much a part of the State as New Caldari. You, on the other hand, despite your attempts to paint yourself as something you are not and could never be, are Gallente, whether you happen to have a bit of Caldari ancestry or not. The Caldari State made our vision of what it means to be Caldari quite clear when we executed those who tried to suppress our Intaki allies after the War for Independence.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-12-01 15:28:30 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Ah, not your homeworld, if you want to play the ancestral game. Saisio III is your ancestral homeworld, is it not?

Im only 50% Achur, but it really shouldnt be your concern.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#6 - 2012-12-01 15:28:58 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Perhaps you forget, comrade, that many of us have no love for Heth. His rise, while necessary, should not be considered a call for a permanent state of emergency. The Big Eight are the true rulers of the State, and always have been.


A State for the Megas, before a State for the Caldari people.

Such a beautiful sentiment.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#7 - 2012-12-01 15:31:06 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Perhaps you forget, comrade, that many of us have no love for Heth. His rise, while necessary, should not be considered a call for a permanent state of emergency. The Big Eight are the true rulers of the State, and always have been.


This.

Katrina Oniseki
Vikarion
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-12-01 15:33:08 UTC
Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:
Vikarion wrote:
Perhaps you forget, comrade, that many of us have no love for Heth. His rise, while necessary, should not be considered a call for a permanent state of emergency. The Big Eight are the true rulers of the State, and always have been.


A State for the Megas, before a State for the Caldari people.

Such a beautiful sentiment.


The people are the corporations. The corporations are the Megas. The Megas are the State. The State is the people. Or perhaps you forget? Don't make the mistake of thinking that Caldari corporations are the same as Gallente "survive if you can" entities. They provide retirement benefits, health insurance, and all the other amenities of life that don't even exist for other employees in the cluster. That's why, according to the SEC and CONCORD files, average Caldari citizens have the highest standard of living in the cluster. It's true that our outcasts do not do well, but our citizens do.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#9 - 2012-12-01 15:49:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Nick Bete
More Hethite chest beating and sabre rattling. Yawn.

And Kim most Gallenteans don't give a tinker's damn what happens with your "glorious" State. It's dangerous psychopaths like you that we worry about.
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#10 - 2012-12-01 16:48:55 UTC
You have my hawk! The rockets however, are reserved for treacherous, back-stabbing Gallente dogs.

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#11 - 2012-12-01 20:38:18 UTC
Do GalNet search for the definition of the term "useful idiot," Ms. Kim.

And then look in a mirror.

Do this before the....aaah...uniquely customised hover- or ground-vans pull up outside your door, by the way.

Of course, I'd like to think the Caldari and their nation are better than that, but in your case it'd be doing evolution a favour, soooo....

...

Anybody want to buy a couple of used vans? Cargo-spec', ready for up-fitting, cheap-cheap!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Sakura Nihil
Faded Light
#12 - 2012-12-01 20:53:14 UTC
The State was a mess before Heth came to power, his rule has only made things worse. Getting back Caldari Prime isn't worth kissing the feet of a dictator.

Glory

Faded Light is recruiting
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#13 - 2012-12-01 22:08:32 UTC
Vikarion wrote:


The people are the corporations. The corporations are the Megas. The Megas are the State. The State is the people. Or perhaps you forget? Don't make the mistake of thinking that Caldari corporations are the same as Gallente "survive if you can" entities. They provide retirement benefits, health insurance, and all the other amenities of life that don't even exist for other employees in the cluster. That's why, according to the SEC and CONCORD files, average Caldari citizens have the highest standard of living in the cluster. It's true that our outcasts do not do well, but our citizens do.


That's a completely reductionist statement. As you said, the Megas are the State before the State is the people. Words have meanings. Talking of the State as the Eight before talking of the State as the Caldari implies a different mindset.

But really, this is a syntax issue and I of course in no way believe the Federation have a system which works better. Please allow me to try to express my feelings in a more concise manner.

It is important to honor our home Mega, but I speak first of Caldari. Especially in this climate, we should not lose site that we are Caldari first.

Yes, I am of course looking at Ishukone - and I believe we all should be watching Ishukone very closely following the attack on Heth. Ishukone who by the day seem to care less and less for the concept of State, who conceal smiles after hearing of the attempted assassination. They who if we follow Diana's literal word, seem to almost fully fit her description of an enemy like a glove.


Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2012-12-01 23:20:47 UTC
I swore an oath to defend this State against all enemies - both foreign and domestic. Ishukone is part of that State, it is part of our family. I firmly beleive that their work to fight for an honourable peace between the State and the Federation is a valuable service to all of us and should be honoured as such. I cannot believe that they would EVER lose sight of that family connection enough to strike at the Executor in this sort of way.

The investigation is under way. I do not join the calls for them to make their progress public, I'd far rather that they have the time and the space to carry out the best, most accurate and most complete investigation possible. Only when their conclusions go public and I've recieved proper orders through the correct channels will I comment on what should be done.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-02 00:01:35 UTC
Kim, your failure as a spokesman is matched only by your failure as a warrior.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-12-02 10:50:41 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Do GalNet search for the definition of the term "useful idiot," Ms. Kim.

And then look in a mirror.

Unfortunately, your gallentean practices are not applicable to just anyone. Especially to me. However, I wouldn't stop you from doing searches and looking in your mirror, disregarding how ridiculous your habits are, I don't mind you doing them. But when you bring your sh... stuff to us, either this, or your stupid democracy, criminal freedoms and egocentric hedonism, your nose will have a short, but memorable meeting with our boots.
And have a nice jam.


And you can have your used gallentish vans too.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-12-02 10:55:13 UTC
Sakura Nihil wrote:
The State was a mess before Heth came to power, his rule has only made things worse. Getting back Caldari Prime isn't worth kissing the feet of a dictator.

Are you what, one of these outcasts that were kicked out for incompetency when our glorious Executor removed nepotism? Well, then stay aside and don't get into our affairs. How one can consider an opinion of incompetent outcast? It is just shaking of the air. I bet everyone who are still living in the State will in one voice tell you, how better life became in the State.
Because we got rid of those like you.
That's something for you to think about.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-12-02 11:21:53 UTC
Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:
Vikarion wrote:


The people are the corporations. The corporations are the Megas. The Megas are the State. The State is the people. Or perhaps you forget? Don't make the mistake of thinking that Caldari corporations are the same as Gallente "survive if you can" entities. They provide retirement benefits, health insurance, and all the other amenities of life that don't even exist for other employees in the cluster. That's why, according to the SEC and CONCORD files, average Caldari citizens have the highest standard of living in the cluster. It's true that our outcasts do not do well, but our citizens do.


That's a completely reductionist statement. As you said, the Megas are the State before the State is the people. Words have meanings. Talking of the State as the Eight before talking of the State as the Caldari implies a different mindset.

But really, this is a syntax issue and I of course in no way believe the Federation have a system which works better. Please allow me to try to express my feelings in a more concise manner.

It is important to honor our home Mega, but I speak first of Caldari. Especially in this climate, we should not lose site that we are Caldari first.

I think there is a mistake in the question itself. Simply because you can't oppose Caldari to Megas. I agree that peoples are the State and State is the people. And people must work for benefit of the State. But peoples can't just swarm on a problem and make a solution: it will be a chaos and no results will be produced. Megas is a regulation mechanism, that divide tasks to subtasks and peoples to teams, that provide places to specialists and sort employees by their merits. This is the system that makes State work. And this system is the best one in whole damned cluster that we know of. Opposing the State to Megas is the same thing as, for example, opposing the Navy with ranking system. You simply can't put one before another. You betray one of them - and you betray everything.

Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:
Yes, I am of course looking at Ishukone - and I believe we all should be watching Ishukone very closely following the attack on Heth. Ishukone who by the day seem to care less and less for the concept of State, who conceal smiles after hearing of the attempted assassination. They who if we follow Diana's literal word, seem to almost fully fit her description of an enemy like a glove.

Disregarding how much Ishukone looks like an enemy according to point of view that I exoressed before, intercorporate war - is the thing that I would prefer to avoid at all costs. We are fighting for a united, solid State, that is a power of many corporations channeled towards common enemy, but not against each other. In the past, direct competitions between corporations made corporations stronger, it has brought many technological advances and turned us into the most powerful entity in these parts of space. But now it is time to apply this power. We shouldn't continue fights against each other, but rather concentrate on those, who oppose us, who wants us destroyed, and who wants us to return back to disorganized lump of small struggling firms. As for Ishukone, I believe it is wrong to blame the Corporation. As I said above, corporation is just a mechanism. Peoples should be blamed, not the Corporation.

What we should do, is to search, expose, eradicate, ditch and dissect all hostile entities, who are taking their sanctuary under warm Ishukone's wing. And then we can embrace Ishukone as full pledged and loyal to the bone part of the State.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-12-02 11:26:51 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Kim, your failure as a spokesman is matched only by your failure as a warrior.

Kid, go sputter your hormones somewhere else.
My answer is still "No".

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-12-02 11:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
Diana Kim wrote:
Kid, go sputter your hormones somewhere else.
My answer is still "No".

Desperately changing the subject only proves my point.

And by the way - "kid" isn't applicable, kid. You're younger than me.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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