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Blockade Runners?!

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Aurora RedNova
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-12-01 10:17:35 UTC
I appreciate that blockade runners are now immune to cargo scanning.
But which ships exactly are counting as blockade runners?
Only Tech2 industrials like Bustard and Crane?
Tried to google and evepedia it but I still have no clue.
Doddy
Excidium.
#2 - 2012-12-01 10:19:53 UTC
The blockade runner is the transport ship that uses the cov ops cloak, so prowler, prorator, viator and crane. It tells you they are blockade runners intheir description.
Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-01 10:20:28 UTC
Aurora RedNova wrote:
I appreciate that blockade runners are now immune to cargo scanning.
But which ships exactly are counting as blockade runners?
Only Tech2 industrials like Bustard and Crane?
Tried to google and evepedia it but I still have no clue.


Viator, Crane, Prorator and Prowler are blockade runners. The other T2 Transport ships are Deep Space Transports (tougher, have inate warp core stability)

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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-12-01 10:25:39 UTC
Blockade runners are blockade runners. What's not to get?
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-12-01 10:27:04 UTC
What the two gentlemen and one other above have told you is correct. Finally you can enjoy cargo scan immunity on your invisible cloaked hauler.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#6 - 2012-12-01 11:03:36 UTC
While our stealthy haulers becoming more stealthy is cool...

I do wonder how much of an explosion of tears there will be when it's implemented. The stealthy haulers are, after all, fragile, reliant on speed and agility and difficult to tank. These factors make them relatively cheap to gank (certainly compared to an Orca) - I suspect we'll see a lot of wrecks around Jita undock Twisted

Blockade Runners in Empire are often used for high value cargo anyway and their high skill requirements and low payoff (hauler [5] only gives you freighters and T2 haulers) probably means that the majority of them operating exclusively in Empire have been bought specifically for that purpose... So in the absence of any indication that they're carrying anything there's a 50/50 chance that they're on their loaded run and a good chance that if they're loaded it'll be with something valuable - which might well be worth a destroyer or two.

Busy gates or stations where cloaking is difficult, the sig increase or agility decrease which fitting a buffer tank which are counter to the low sig, high agility paradigm of the ship and the impracticality of fitting active modules (hardeners, DCs...etc) on a cloaking ship... All those datacores, all that ferrogel - and the crimewatch changes which would allow players to take down some of the ganking ships required for a freighter or Orca have almost no impact on a couple of desi's...
Charles Case
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-01 11:10:32 UTC
I'm going to stop fitting a cloak now.

Dave Stark
#8 - 2012-12-01 11:16:54 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Blockade runners are blockade runners. What's not to get?


so, which ones are those?
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#9 - 2012-12-01 11:17:16 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
What the two gentlemen and one other above have told you is correct. Finally you can enjoy cargo scan immunity on your invisible cloaked hauler.
To be fair, it's pretty hard to cloak at the jita 4-4 undock Blink
Dave Stark
#10 - 2012-12-01 11:23:43 UTC
Pohbis wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
What the two gentlemen and one other above have told you is correct. Finally you can enjoy cargo scan immunity on your invisible cloaked hauler.
To be fair, it's pretty hard to cloak at the jita 4-4 undock Blink


undock bookmark.
cloak.
???
profit.
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#11 - 2012-12-01 11:29:05 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Pohbis wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
What the two gentlemen and one other above have told you is correct. Finally you can enjoy cargo scan immunity on your invisible cloaked hauler.
To be fair, it's pretty hard to cloak at the jita 4-4 undock Blink


undock bookmark.
cloak.
???
profit.

open market screen
read T2 industrial description
???
profit

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2012-12-01 11:32:49 UTC
Not sure why they needed to do this given the blocade runner if used right cant be locked...
Doddy
Excidium.
#13 - 2012-12-01 11:40:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Not sure why they needed to do this given the blocade runner if used right cant be locked...


Because most people can't use it right of course. Anyway the real question is will it be scannable by customs?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#14 - 2012-12-01 11:45:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Yup. Bad idea (except for gankers).

They are normally pretty hard to catch, but even the best pilot will screw up in them once in a thousand times.

They used to be ignored as they were so hard to catch in space. But now there will most likely be a much more concerted effort to pop them now thay they 'may or may not' have valuable cargo.

especially with the presence of Tier 3 BCs, they are about the worst, least defensible ships in the game.

Another change not really thought through. It was an 'easy fix' for CCP instead of really looking at the mechanics...much less the mechanics of T2 Transport ships that need re-balancing.

EDIT: at least the Orca needed coordination and a plan to actually explode in high sec. These things are like balloons. Oh well, if I get popped in mine, all they'll get is P1 PI junk.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2012-12-01 11:52:08 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Anyway the real question is will it be scannable by customs?


Would have thought so.
Trdina Rasputin
Man-dingo
#16 - 2012-12-01 11:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Trdina Rasputin
Can CONCORD still scan blockade runner? I mean custom office.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#17 - 2012-12-01 12:03:57 UTC
Doddy wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Not sure why they needed to do this given the blocade runner if used right cant be locked...


Because most people can't use it right of course. Anyway the real question is will it be scannable by customs?


yes they can re.CCP in i think it was the patch notes thread.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#18 - 2012-12-01 12:04:10 UTC
i hope concord can't scan... i've got some hummm sugar to haul Shocked

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-12-01 12:17:55 UTC
I don't get what the point is. If

Oh damn, baltec1 said it already.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Fryhilda
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-12-01 12:45:23 UTC
You can tank it up to 40k EHP or so. And go AFK on autopilot with it with no fear of being scanned.
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