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Dust 514 Members Preparing for CSM

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Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-01 06:11:11 UTC
As it stands there are at least half a dozen or more Dust 514 players who are stating they will be running for CSM.

Some are Eve Online players, some former Eve Online players and others have no experience of Eve Online outside of Dust 514.

So, my question to the General Discussion - what's your thoughts on this?

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as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-12-01 06:12:56 UTC
lol



Is my thought.
Diamond Bull
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-12-01 06:17:38 UTC
The CSM fairly represents the interests of all play styles within the Eve Universe. Of couse it should include a Dust 514 player.



Dude, I'm proud of myself. I typed that whole thing before bursting into laughter.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-12-01 06:45:04 UTC
Guaranteed to make some nursing home bitter-vets angry. Smile

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batowarrior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-12-01 06:51:05 UTC
Pretty sure all 10 Dust 514 players will represent a significant voting block in the upcoming election.

Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#6 - 2012-12-01 07:33:07 UTC
CSM is for EVE

Dust still has to have its own "T20" or what was a reason of creating the CSM Roll

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Citizen of Solitude
Erel Kighas
Ex Cruoris Libertas
#7 - 2012-12-01 07:50:39 UTC
Will CSM encompass both games, and allow players of both games to vote?
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#8 - 2012-12-01 07:58:26 UTC
CSM is useless meta-game like alliance tournaments. I'd prefer CCP to relocate resources to WiS or Dust or any other EVE mechanics which affect/involve more than 10-200 players.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#9 - 2012-12-01 08:03:56 UTC
Dust is a lot more free to play then EVE is. Will the Dust CSMs push for more micro transactions to be implemented in EVE?

They have avatars as well. Maybe all they will want is Incarna repeated.

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Luc Chastot
#10 - 2012-12-01 08:33:41 UTC
Bad idea. I support Dust, but it's a different game, as much as it's connected to EVE.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Konrad Kane
#11 - 2012-12-01 08:49:01 UTC
Maybe worth waiting for the game to launch before having player reps?
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#12 - 2012-12-01 08:58:31 UTC
400k capsuleers vs. 800k+ f2p console gamerz (dusties) voting for CSM. Wonder how that'll go.

I'm in it for the money

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Konrad Kane
#13 - 2012-12-01 09:30:02 UTC
Webvan wrote:
400k capsuleers vs. 800k+ f2p console gamerz (dusties) voting for CSM. Wonder how that'll go.


If Dust gets 800k regular players they can have all the seats Big smile
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#14 - 2012-12-01 09:34:26 UTC
Konrad Kane wrote:
Webvan wrote:
400k capsuleers vs. 800k+ f2p console gamerz (dusties) voting for CSM. Wonder how that'll go.


If Dust gets 800k regular players they can have all the seats Big smile

Nah, more like the US elections, 800k+ voting but only 50k actual living bodies voting. Gotta love those PS3 hacks Blink

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Gillia Winddancer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-01 09:34:31 UTC
If those dusties are only in it for the Dust game then yeah it's fine. Kinda wouldn't make any sense if EVE players who don't play Dust or vice versa were to represent said games.

But now I assume that this is a captain obvious moment and that Dust players will not have any say regarding EVE itself.
Borascus
#16 - 2012-12-01 09:39:39 UTC
Let's not forget the outlay from CSM members current and past, it does take bank to turn up in Iceland, attend Fanfest etc.

That said I feel there should be a static seat on the CSM for a DUST rep, they would be able to illustrate the integration side of things, and any problems arising from it, from a DUST standpoint. How many seats in total? 1.
Ritsum
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-12-01 09:42:48 UTC
Meh I don't care who gets in CSM... Stuff will change whether I like the change or not... All I see CSM as, is a place for people to gather to make themselves feel like they are important and matter.

As I said before, things will change. It does not matter who is in the CSM because chances are that what ever they say could have been pre-decided by CCP to be implemented/changed anyway. It is really just a way for CCP to say they care and make a select few feel important.

Play EvE how you want to play it and do not let others dictate how you play. Evolve your playstyle to protect yourself from others! Even in "PVE", "PVP" is there, lurking in the shadows.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-12-01 09:54:05 UTC
I give the Eve-Dust514 connection about 4 months before pubbies are shooting a statue in jita again. Then CCP will sever the links and Dust will become another crappy Planetside competitor.
Doddy
Excidium.
#19 - 2012-12-01 10:01:13 UTC
Its not like the CSM actually makes decisions.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-12-01 10:11:01 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Its not like the CSM actually makes decisions.


This is true, but they can be a useful tool to guide CCP away from stupidity. Judging from dev blogs and their own internal memos CCP literally had no clue that Incarna was going to be as big a clusterfuck as it was, and they had no idea as to WHY it was such a huge clusterfuck until someone took the time to fly the fairly intelligent players of the CSM out to Iceland and tell them why they were being dumb.

Lets face it: these forums as a useful tool for the playerbase contacting CCP in any meaningful manner with good forward thinking ideas are absolutely useless. They are shat up with trolling and dumb ideas. The assembly hall and general discussion is a cesspit of dumb ideas.
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