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Capital Remote Assistance Module Prereq Skill Removal.
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ztk
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-12-01 02:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ztk
Dec 4th Patch Notes:
http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

"-Removed non-capital skill requirements from capital remote assistance modules. (Shield Emission Systems, Energy Emission Systems, Remote Hull Repair Systems and Remote Armor Repair Systems)
-Decreased capacitor use of capital remote assistance modules to compensate for loss of skill bonus."\

If this is really the case, i demand that you give the option to reimburse the energy emission systems, remote armor repair systems, and shield emission systems skills. Because if they are not required now for then they are essentially useless for pure capital characters, or characters that just dont have a use for that skill.

CCP: If you are going to make skills useless like this, then you better give the option to reimburse these skills.
Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#2 - 2012-12-01 02:52:40 UTC
Oh here we go.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-12-01 02:56:46 UTC
ztk wrote:
"-Removed non-capital skill requirements from capital remote assistance modules. (Shield Emission Systems, Energy Emission Systems, Remote Hull Repair Systems and Remote Armor Repair Systems)
-Decreased capacitor use of capital remote assistance modules to compensate for loss of skill bonus."\

If this is really the case, i demand that you give the option to reimburse the energy emission systems, remote armor repair systems, and shield emission systems skills. Because if they are not required now for then they are essentially useless for pure capital characters, or characters that just dont have a use for that skill.


No. I'm also a capital pilot & I think this idea is stupid.

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Holy One
Privat Party
#4 - 2012-12-01 02:56:53 UTC
Geeeeeeeeez!!! RollRollRollRoll

I too am ragin' stevens about this, I just spent months training all that skanky **** just to use capital energy and armor transfers. :CCP:

:)
ztk
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-12-01 02:57:55 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
ztk wrote:
"-Removed non-capital skill requirements from capital remote assistance modules. (Shield Emission Systems, Energy Emission Systems, Remote Hull Repair Systems and Remote Armor Repair Systems)
-Decreased capacitor use of capital remote assistance modules to compensate for loss of skill bonus."\

If this is really the case, i demand that you give the option to reimburse the energy emission systems, remote armor repair systems, and shield emission systems skills. Because if they are not required now for then they are essentially useless for pure capital characters, or characters that just dont have a use for that skill.


No. I'm also a capital pilot & I think this idea is stupid.


There are a ton of pure cap pilots in eve, and essentially ccp are just handing you wasted skill points.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-12-01 03:28:35 UTC
I'm glad I trained up for a revelation Evil

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-01 03:29:31 UTC
ztk wrote:
Dec 4th Patch Notes:
http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

"-Removed non-capital skill requirements from capital remote assistance modules. (Shield Emission Systems, Energy Emission Systems, Remote Hull Repair Systems and Remote Armor Repair Systems)
-Decreased capacitor use of capital remote assistance modules to compensate for loss of skill bonus."\

If this is really the case, i demand that you give the option to reimburse the energy emission systems, remote armor repair systems, and shield emission systems skills. Because if they are not required now for then they are essentially useless for pure capital characters, or characters that just dont have a use for that skill.

CCP: If you are going to make skills useless like this, then you better give the option to reimburse these skills.


oh please they're only rank 2 skills

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-12-01 03:52:52 UTC
ztk wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
ztk wrote:
"-Removed non-capital skill requirements from capital remote assistance modules. (Shield Emission Systems, Energy Emission Systems, Remote Hull Repair Systems and Remote Armor Repair Systems)
-Decreased capacitor use of capital remote assistance modules to compensate for loss of skill bonus."\

If this is really the case, i demand that you give the option to reimburse the energy emission systems, remote armor repair systems, and shield emission systems skills. Because if they are not required now for then they are essentially useless for pure capital characters, or characters that just dont have a use for that skill.


No. I'm also a capital pilot & I think this idea is stupid.


There are a ton of pure cap pilots in eve, and essentially ccp are just handing you wasted skill points.


It happens sometimes. Stealth Bomber pilots didn't get refunded skillpoints, so why should anyone else? It's a stupid idea.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#9 - 2012-12-01 03:57:10 UTC
Andski wrote:
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Removed non-capital skill requirements from capital remote assistance modules. (Shield Emission Systems, Energy Emission Systems, Remote Hull Repair Systems and Remote Armor Repair Systems)

oh please they're only rank 2 skills

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, looking at my skill list.

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-12-01 03:59:32 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Stealth Bomber pilots didn't get refunded skillpoints, so why should anyone else?

Wait, what happened to stealth bombers?

CCP has no sense of humour.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-12-01 04:06:14 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Stealth Bomber pilots didn't get refunded skillpoints, so why should anyone else?

Wait, what happened to stealth bombers?


They reduced some of the skill requirements a few years ago in the same fashion as what they're doing now for capitals.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-01 04:08:56 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Stealth Bomber pilots didn't get refunded skillpoints, so why should anyone else?

Wait, what happened to stealth bombers?


They reduced some of the skill requirements a few years ago in the same fashion as what they're doing now for capitals.

Weren't they also cruise missile platforms at some point as well?
Alara IonStorm
#13 - 2012-12-01 04:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Tyberius Franklin wrote:

Weren't they also cruise missile platforms at some point as well?

Way before my time, they couldn't even warp while cloaked.
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-12-01 06:04:30 UTC
Being a pure cap pilot is your choice, if you're not in a super there's nothing stopping you from moving down to a smaller ship when the situation calls for it.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-12-01 06:23:02 UTC
"from capital remote assistance modules"

The skills still has a prereq of level V of these skills and I saw nothing about removing that.
ztk
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-12-01 06:29:37 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
"from capital remote assistance modules"

The skills still has a prereq of level V of these skills and I saw nothing about removing that.


You are reading it wrong, it says they are removing the need for level 5 of these skills for the capital module skill.
Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-12-01 06:32:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Grideris
Nalha Saldana wrote:
"from capital remote assistance modules"

The skills still has a prereq of level V of these skills and I saw nothing about removing that.


This more or less.
AFAIK, the skills required to use Capital assistance modules still need the regular ones to be V - all it does is remove some redundancy from the skill requirements of the modules themselves, allowing them to do less calculations when working out the capacitor usage of the modules (so less calls to pilot skills, less effort needed by server. Wouldn't think there would be much, but some is better than none).

This change is on Buckingham, so you can check it yourself if you want.

So for us, nothing effectively has changed.

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Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-12-01 06:38:48 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Stealth Bomber pilots didn't get refunded skillpoints, so why should anyone else?

Wait, what happened to stealth bombers?

They reduced some of the skill requirements a few years ago in the same fashion as what they're doing now for capitals.

Ah, way before my time, thanks.

CCP has no sense of humour.
The Protato
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-12-01 16:23:31 UTC
ztk wrote:
There are a ton of pure cap pilots in eve, and essentially ccp are just handing you wasted skill points.


As a non-pure capital pilot, I'm quite happy that I can fly both a triage carrier and a properly-fit guardian.
Doddy
Excidium.
#20 - 2012-12-01 17:45:54 UTC
Even if they did remove the skill as a req, Why would ccp give you skill points? you haven't lost anything. You are far better off than people who have been effected by changes before and they didn't get anything (oh look my pure bomber pilot has t2 cruise b ut can't use torps at all).
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