Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Medium shield transporter activation cost is different, between tech 1 and tech 2.

Activation Cost:
Medium S95a (meta 4) / Medium tech 2
132 / 120

But it's the same amount (280) for both tech 1 and tech 2 on large transporters.

I wish either large or medium would change its activation cost pattern.

Give us another reason to like Tech 2 shield transporters on Tech 2 logistics (lower activation cost matching the pattern seen with medium size modules.)

-or-

Put another small nerf on the current Tech 1 logistics design, for players wanting to use Tech 2 medium shield transporters, so the only advantage to tech 2 is faster cycle times, like the large modules currently.

Moving along from the Large RR row, I was thinking that one of these could happily sit 24km behind 2 Guardians (or Oneiros) and basically be their backup incase they get grief. Remote ECCM and up to 3 extra reps on them incase **** goes south. This role can easily be assigned to a non-logi pilot if you're running low.

[NEW Exequror, Med RR Logi backup]
800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Warded Magnetometric Backup Cluster I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Damage Control II

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I
Phased Muon ECCM Caster I
Phased Muon ECCM Caster I

NEW Medium 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
NEW Medium 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
NEW Medium 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction

Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I


Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x5

Clever idea or totally stupid?

T2 Logi can still fit large reppers with ease, and that's gonna make them the upgrade you're wanting. They have better tank, better rep, better range, etc. Those all sound like upgrades to me.

I have managed to fit an exequror with over 9000 armor hitpoints, reps 957 hp/5s with 75, 67, 67, 76 in resists, topspeed of 600 m/s (ab fit) and over 4 min. cap stable (fully cap stable in the event of a fleet fight with pulsing the reppers not considering neuts).

Damn it's hot. So many newbros in so many logi ships :D

This I agree with too. Assuming they were to add another bonus to the tech 1 hulls (For electronic fire power support) then they could even possibly have a new Tech 2 support hull that focuses on said roles. While logistics focus on the defensive role of repping.

I haven't checked Exeq yet but winmatar got a punch in the face on this one. - changed my mind. Winmatar Logi just fail in fleet webbing. As stand alone Logi they are fine.

Osprey and Augy are the clear winners. Augy being the hands down first prize for T1 Logi.

triple ECCM fit with 28K EHP lows tank, large transfer array and 4 med remote Armor repair. Drones for Logi or some T2 Hobs for Killmail piggy backing.

I can get much better if I use T2 Ancillary

- Stand alone Logi
Exeq Armor
Scythe Shield

-Fleet webbed Logi
Augy Armor
Caldari Shield (never remember the name of that cruiser)

Think they might be a bit overpowered, Augoror and Exequror can get close to 80% resist line before boosts, augoror's pairing up keeping eachother stable and exequror cap boosted. Augoror reps almost the same amount as a cheap fit guardian, can get a much higher sensor strength. The Exequror can dual prop quite easily as well. Everything fits without implants.

Downside ofc is the resist line which really isn't bad for t1, and the 20 higher base sig, you can still get it down to below 50 with lg halo's, loki/claymore and x-instinct standard.

[Augoror: cheap logi bro, stable with transfer buddy]

High
1x Medium Remote Armor Repair System II
3x Medium 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
1x Medium Energy Transfer Array II

Meds
2x Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I
1x t2 10MN AB

Lows
1x T2 800mm plate
1x T2 Armor Therm hardener
1x T2 Armor Kin hardener
1x T2 Armor Expl hardener
1x T2 EANM

Rigs:
1x T1 ACR
1x T1 EM rig
1x T1 Kin rig

We chained up 3 of these on the test server and got engaged by 2 vindi's and an adrestia, we were just barely not able to hold up reps, so that's with just 2 of these repping with over 3k dps incoming and the target webbed down by probably 2 90% webs. No boosts or anything.

[Exequror: cheap logi bro]

High
3x T2 Medium Remote Amor Repair System

Meds
1x T2 Medium capacitor booster, Navy cap booster 400
1x T2 10mn Afterburner
2x meta 4 Magneto ECCM

Lows
1x 800MM RT Plate
1x Meta 4 DCU
1x T2 Armor Therm hardener
1x T2 Armor Kin Hardener
1x T2 Amor Expl Hardener
1x T2 EANM

Rigs:
1x T1 ACR
1x T1 EM rig
1x T1 EX rig

Switch the DCU for a meta 4 RCU, meta 4 cap booster, meta 4 reps, and you can drop 1 ECCM for a meta 4 MWD to dual prop it.

Scythe has issue's with not being able to fit eccm or a decent resist line, without the base t2 minmatar resists there simply aren't enough slots to get it anywhere near decent. It does about what the scimi does (perma mwd + reps) but does it with FAR lower resists and no eccm. This is what I came up with:

[Scythe: cheap logi bro, cap stable]

High
3x Meta 4 Medium shield transporter

Med
1x T2 Invuln
1x T2 EM ward field
1x Meta 4 MWD
1x Meta 4 LSE
1x Meta 4 Cap recharger

Low
2x T2 capacitor power relay
2x Meta 4 PDS
1x Meta 4 DCU

Rigs
2x CCC's
1x T1 TH rig

You could drop the DCU for a low-slot ECCM but resists become even worse.


Haven't tested out the caldari one yet.

Unsticking, let's make some space for future threads.