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No, but there might be some high priced ships out there without killrights that you might incentivize to get blown up!

Ugh, I feel like you guys are going in circles and the direct Q & A is getting missed. Soniclover... The main question here is, Why didn't you guys just make it so activating a Killrightjust gives you or your fleet an LE? It would solve this whole debate! It would make sense for a Bounty Hunter/Bounty Hunter Corp to pursue that profession. You guys created the Limited Engagement flag for a good reason, so why not make full use of it here?

You're giving us a new improved system that we are all chomping at the bit to make use of, enjoy and praise you guys for; but your frustrating us all by hampering it with issuing a Suspect flag for anyone to blob, steal and it simply destroys the whole point of what being a Bounty Hunter is all about. How do you guys not understand this?

With Inferno, you Devs thought your new War system would help create and improvea profession of being a Merc Corp. Did that work? No. It's a jumbled mess. Now this... It's like, your Heart is in the right place in wanting to develop new awesome ways to play Eve, and you've all put in so much work to develop a better system, but the Tail End of your Execution of these systems is falling short. It's like a juicy steak dangling over our heads... We can smell it! But we can't yet sink our teeth into yet!

Please... Listen to you community on this. You keep saying, "We felt it was in the best interest of the game to do it this way". Last I checked, we the community, ARE THE GAME; are we not? What if, for once... You trusted our opinion and made that change: activating a Killright creates an LE for you and you fleet on the target.

Afterall, if this somehow breaks the game and everyone screams, we'd only have oursleves to blame... Right?
So why not try it?

Oh! In other words you know that you have created a simple grieving tool. And you know that not the bad guys will be on top of this bounty list but the famous guys in EVE will do.
And to hide this fact you just exclude CCP at once. Clever!

Furthermore it IS my opinion, that a security rating is an indicator for the play style of a character. You have to do criminal things for a -10 or you have to keep out of trouble for a +5.0!

Which actuallystill fits the game's lore quite well. Capsuleers are more or less considered uncontrollable and switching allegiance at will based on payments and things (at least some of them), which is also the reason for CONCORD and the technology withheld by them (to keep them under control). This is also something that appears a bit in the 2012 Fanfest trailer (just talking about the Dust 514 Infantry rather than Capsuleers) as well the books.

The only part of the new bounty system I'm not 100% sure yet is the ability to place it on anyone, even new players, but at the same time payouts on new players would be minimal, making ganking them in high far from lucrative.

You seem to be misunderstanding how it works. Let's say I do anything offensive to someone's ship (or someone's pod in lowsec vOv), they automatically get a killright on me regardless of whether or not they actually get killed.

Now, what people who wanted to make a career out of bountyhunting actually wanted out of the system rework was a reason for them to be a bountyhunter. The best way of doing this would've been to let the guy I killed put a price on the killright he had, and transfer it to a character, corp or alliance, and they would then go out, start a limited engagement with that guy, kill him for you, and receive the bounty which was directly associated with that killright.

What they got, was a system where the guy I killed would have 3 options:
1) stalk me and activate the killright whenever he chose, and watch everyone else shoot me for 15 minutes
2) put the killright public for anything between 0 and infinity isk, and whenever someone activated the killright, he would get the money (if any). This had risks associated with it, because either he set it too low and the guy he wanted griefed would just activate it and shoot himself with an alt, or it would be set so high nobody wanted to plop down the money and try to gank the guy and run off with the bounty (if applicable) and loot. If someone else got the final blow, they ran off with the bounty (if applicable), and everyone else could run off with the loot, leaving the bountyhunter with a net loss.
3) same as 2), except it's transferred to a single char, corp or alliance.

TL/DR: Players wanted: bountyhunter system. Players got: vigilante system.

Isn't that the same thing?

It was Posted 20 months ago!!

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1501417

CCP Love paying attention to thier customers!!!

Yeah I did think of this, but it kinds of defeats it as a career. Bounty Hunter/ Suicide Ganker + this would then inturn give them kill rights against you for the next mth making you a target.

At least if you bourght kill rights/mini war dec as a bounty hunter from the bounty office ones a hit was complete it would be done with.


Oh and James Amril-Kesh you should be a dev, coz you respond to thread more then they do.

I completely agree with Riikard Thexder. The fact is that we have some sort of bounty rewarding system, but there is no space for real bounty hunting profession.

My imagination of bounty hunter profession is that I will go to the bounty hunting office and there I will purchase Bounty hunter's license for one month (price and range can vary based on security level of desired systems and sovereignty - for example: 100M for all 0.1-0.6 systems in caldari space).
After that for one month I will be eligible to attack anyone in allowed systems who has bounty on his head - with no sanctions (no standing loss, no kill rights on me).

Of course there must be some adjustments to the current system, so it cannot be exploitable (like I will put bounty on this shiny jump freighter and I can kill it). I think that bounty can be put only on players which did some bad thing to me. Based on "after an action there is an reaction" law. Like this:

• Hey! You killed my ship/pod! I will put bounty on you head, have fun with bounty hunters!
• You stole from my container! I will leave the dirty work for bounty hunters!
• You think that you can rob our corporation and leave free? No way, now the whole universe will be looking after you!

Simply said: If someone gets aggro then I can put bounty on him for duration of that aggression or if I'm director of corporation I can put bounty on any member of my corporation (or former members which left corporation 1 day ago).

Overall I think that current bounty rewarding system is a good step, but the whole bounty hunting system needs more improvements in way of attacking people which have bounty on their head in hisec.

As a total carebear who likes mining and making things who, up until last week was about to give up on this game because I felt that I would never be able to get revenge against all those who have wronged me (check my kill board, there is been a few) I took a good look into this and rubbed my dirty miners hands together.

At last a way I can get my own back.

So today I sold my kill rights, all of them, for a small fee and a few hours after doing so, a notification popped up saying a kill right had been completed.

I checked the kill boards.

My loss, 50m, their loss, 58m.

Victory.

Shortly after members of the pirate corp, threatened to come and find me and kill me. My simple reply, I have deep pockets, for every kill you make on me, I will add as a bounty on your corp, every kill right I will sell.

You will have to lose 5 x my loss for wronging me.

I swear, I could almost taste the pirate tears... Or is that carebear tears?

I have never, in all of my game time in eve, felt like I had actually "won" but now I had. So much so I sent the people on the kill mail a thankyou email and some extra ISK with encouragement to keep up the good work.

Oh revenge is so sweet.