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Dev Blog: U and I – Our Little Improvements Together V3

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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#21 - 2012-11-30 13:54:34 UTC
Very nice. Especially the finding yourself in the fleet changes.
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-11-30 13:55:14 UTC
Well done!

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Tess La'Coil
Messerschmitt Vertrieb und Logistik
#23 - 2012-11-30 13:55:55 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
Please make the "drag from overview to chat" feature even better: instead of "raven raven avatar", give us the option to have a compressed list "2 raven, 1 avatar". Try to drag 50+ ships at a time, see how spammy it is.

I realize that the words are links to show info on the ships, but FC's may be interested in just the number and types of ships, rather than their fittings. "30 ravens, 1 avatar" is much better than "raven raven avatar raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven."


The way I understand is you'll be linking a ship. And when someone presses on that ship you'll see the ship info and have the pilots portrait to click on, right?
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Merouk Baas
#24 - 2012-11-30 13:58:38 UTC
Yeah, which is why it's better to have the compressed list as an option rather than removing the functionality of the links.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#25 - 2012-11-30 14:02:46 UTC
Tess La'Coil wrote:
Merouk Baas wrote:
Please make the "drag from overview to chat" feature even better: instead of "raven raven avatar", give us the option to have a compressed list "2 raven, 1 avatar". Try to drag 50+ ships at a time, see how spammy it is.

I realize that the words are links to show info on the ships, but FC's may be interested in just the number and types of ships, rather than their fittings. "30 ravens, 1 avatar" is much better than "raven raven avatar raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven."


The way I understand is you'll be linking a ship. And when someone presses on that ship you'll see the ship info and have the pilots portrait to click on, right?

Only if they are on your grid (btw, did you know that if you do show info on ships on your grid in the D-scanner you get that info... that was new information for CCP FoxFour P)

But I do like the idea of doing the count, not sure what those Game Designers say about it though P

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#26 - 2012-11-30 14:05:39 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP FoxFour
CCP karkur wrote:
Only if they are on your grid (btw, did you know that if you do show info on ships on your grid in the D-scanner you get that info... that was new information for CCP FoxFour P)


I fully admit to that being new information to me and boy was I happy to learn that! It makes it far easier to figure out who in my fleets have not renamed their ships so I can yell... politely ask them to change their ship name. :D

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GeeShizzle MacCloud
#27 - 2012-11-30 14:06:56 UTC
would say im quietly confident its possible karkur

=)
Arydanika
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#28 - 2012-11-30 14:08:43 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
STOP! STOP THAT NOW! You are just making the rest of us look lazy!

If I can't get you to stop at least accept my thanks. These are awesome changes that will make every ones life in EVE better. :D
Hmm. Pot. Kettle. Black.

These are some fan-frickin-tastic Little Things. Double target lines?! Nearly passed out from joy. No more buying 12 when I only wanted two? My wallet is forever in your debt. Dragging from D-Scan? This is so nice I'm unable to continue forming coherent thoughts.

/me tip of the hat.

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Ethan Revenant
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#29 - 2012-11-30 14:12:18 UTC
Quote:
we will all be able to drag the interesting stuff from the d-scanner to chat and create show-info links there.


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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#30 - 2012-11-30 14:12:33 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Tess La'Coil wrote:
Merouk Baas wrote:
Please make the "drag from overview to chat" feature even better: instead of "raven raven avatar", give us the option to have a compressed list "2 raven, 1 avatar". Try to drag 50+ ships at a time, see how spammy it is.

I realize that the words are links to show info on the ships, but FC's may be interested in just the number and types of ships, rather than their fittings. "30 ravens, 1 avatar" is much better than "raven raven avatar raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven."


The way I understand is you'll be linking a ship. And when someone presses on that ship you'll see the ship info and have the pilots portrait to click on, right?

Only if they are on your grid (btw, did you know that if you do show info on ships on your grid in the D-scanner you get that info... that was new information for CCP FoxFour P)

But I do like the idea of doing the count, not sure what those Game Designers say about it though P


Just out of interest; can you do this with Survey results so you can drag the results to an EVE Mail or a Note ?

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Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-11-30 14:14:52 UTC
Highlighting my position in the fleet hierarchy? I think I want to cry with joy.

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Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
#32 - 2012-11-30 14:17:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Daneel Trevize
Sounds great, though it's raised 1 question:

With the multiple rows of locked targets, when all the first row of targets have gone, will your modules try to activate on the first entry in the second row? E.g. if I've got a cap chain/RR/remote sebo/eccm going with a buddy as the first entry of my second locked targets row, and am shooting several rats in my first row, once all the rats die and I mash my guns F keys again, will I be trying to activate them on my buddy?
I realise this will possible to be prevented via the Crimewatch safeties, but will it still be trying to be moving along the locked targets list, or are they almost as 2 different lists? If that makes sense...

Also seconding shortcut for compact large dscan drag & drop please.

And what about those on-grid bookmark brackets promised ~this time last year and said to be ready for the next patch at the time?
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2012-11-30 14:21:47 UTC
\o/ look at all the nice things!!!!

No Worries

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#34 - 2012-11-30 14:25:33 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
Please make the "drag from overview to chat" feature even better: instead of "raven raven avatar", give us the option to have a compressed list "2 raven, 1 avatar". Try to drag 50+ ships at a time, see how spammy it is.

I realize that the words are links to show info on the ships, but FC's may be interested in just the number and types of ships, rather than their fittings. "30 ravens, 1 avatar" is much better than "raven raven avatar raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven."

this

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#35 - 2012-11-30 14:25:52 UTC  |  Edited by: War Kitten
CCP Explorer wrote:
I don't recall how often I've had to delete the default quantity "1" from the market buy window. No more!!! Big smile


Somewhere over 9000 times I'd guess - which is exactly where these changes rate on the scale of awesome!

Two rows of targets - very cool!

Drag d-scan to chat? Freakin' awesome!

EDIT: Yeah, the above posted compression for multiple ship types would be nice too.

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Merouk Baas
#36 - 2012-11-30 14:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Merouk Baas
They could add an option to "Never activate aggressive modules on targets I have friendly modules on." Or take into account your fleet / corp / alliance, so that friendly modules always go to those and aggression modules never do.

Oh, "Auto-sort target list by fleet/corp/alliance membership." Top row enemies, bottom row friends, if you so desire.
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-11-30 14:37:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Kolonko
CCP FoxFour wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Only if they are on your grid (btw, did you know that if you do show info on ships on your grid in the D-scanner you get that info... that was new information for CCP FoxFour P)


I fully admit to that being new information to me and boy was I happy to learn that! It makes it far easier to figure out who in my fleets have not renamed their ships so I can yell... politely ask them to change their ship name. :D



sooo, let me get this straight:

we have this scenario:

Player A is in system X (wormhole)
Player B is in system Y - linked via WH to system X, and is siting on that connection waiting for prey

Player A sees scaning Anathema on D-scan

Player A links thatanathema into fleet chat

Sudenly player B sees WH activation and Anathema shows up, he clicks in the link in fleet, and if the show info shows ship with player, than that was exaclty the same ship that hes fleet mate show in another system, if not, he know that that player is still there somewhere

Isnt that a little to much info from D-scan??????
Jouron
Hadon Shipping
#38 - 2012-11-30 14:37:48 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
"raven raven avatar raven raven raven raven raven raven raven raven."


Mushroom Mushroom!
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#39 - 2012-11-30 14:41:03 UTC
Definitely loving the self highlight in fleet heirachy, and the target position love for logis, those guys have it hard enough already.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#40 - 2012-11-30 14:45:24 UTC
Max Kolonko wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Only if they are on your grid (btw, did you know that if you do show info on ships on your grid in the D-scanner you get that info... that was new information for CCP FoxFour P)


I fully admit to that being new information to me and boy was I happy to learn that! It makes it far easier to figure out who in my fleets have not renamed their ships so I can yell... politely ask them to change their ship name. :D



sooo, let me get this straight:

we have this scenario:

Player A is in system X (wormhole)
Player B is in system Y - linked via WH to system X, and is siting on that connection waiting for prey

Player A sees scaning Anathema on D-scan

Player A links thatanathema into fleet chat

Sudenly player B sees WH activation and Anathema shows up, he clicks in the link in fleet, and if the show info shows ship with player, than that was exaclty the same ship that hes fleet mate show in another system, if not, he know that that player is still there somewhere

Isnt that a little to much info from D-scan??????


To be clear, and I may get Karkur to update the blog with this information, the show info of the ship from D-scan will only show the pilot information if they are on-grid and can be seen. Basically your d-scan needs to show a distance of not "-" or all you get is the show info of the ship, no pilot information.

So this is not actually giving any new information, just giving another way to find the information.

To put it another way if the link from D-Scan shows pilot information it is because the person linking it sees that target on their overview.

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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