EVE General Discussion

Because buying GTC's for their dozen alts (some even dozens!!) gives them the feeling their assumptions and statements somehow have more impact than yours?

This is not the only explanation but probably one of them.

Maybe some guy not making the difference in between isk and real money in his threads because for him, isk IS real money (RMT) and whenever you think differently you obviously know nothing about life yada ya?

Another possible explanation maybe?

Just carry on, let it be because in the end you might get really disappointed with some hard truths.

EVE players are more than just customers - they are content and content creators. Obviously they (should) have a bit more rights and can ask for more than Pepsi or Ford customers.

This is because old veterans in some cases and for some reasons are exousted or tired form EvE, ok lets stand to fact, we are humans - gamers, most of us are old players or vetetans, we play this game for years we spent with EvE a lot time,me personaly 500+ days online...

This is normal, that people got tired and start whine... espetialy hardocre gamers who want changes, however like OP mention CCP care about own product and own gamers community, i believe they do all best to us.

90% of whine posts are created by old gamers, not by newbis, because they are like in trans while playing EvE, like me long time ago...

People whine because they dont know how to break form game, they dont know how to be offline because they always online for years, day after day.

Meny EvE players are more game fanatics in positive meaning, than ordinaly gamers, just because EvE offer deep intensive feelings and addiction while people play, but after long period of time like few years, most of people know everything about this game and they want big changes.

Ps. Sorry form my grammar.

Because for years people in the game asked for things .. never happened BUT CCP work on things No one Want .. so we nicely ask instead on working on things NO one asked you for .. use that Time To work On features Players asking since ......
If you don't remenber
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6342&find=unread

We act like this because we love the game and see the potential if CCP listened to the good ideas

To answer your question and to cut to the chase...

EvE is the only MMORPG of it's type. There is literally no MMORPG that rivals any aspect of EvE, or it's complexity. Think about this: If sh*t hit the fan with EvE, where would we go? All other games seem like child's play compared to this game. EvE, while not perfect, is undoubtedly leagues above any other game at the moment.

We criticize CCP and stalk the development of the game because we love EvE. It is the only game of it's kind, and we don't want to see it die. If we didn't care about the game, or thought it was "just another video game", we wouldn't spend time in the forums ranting.

The nature of the game itself - an open sandbox - is one that must be preserved. Consumer feedback only improves the game, and the more consumer feedback, the better retention CCP will have.

About the "wasted development time" - I don't really care how long CCP takes when making something. I've only been playing for a few months so far. But I have a feeling that the EvE veterans - those 4+ year old chars - want big changes, and want them fast, to add variety to the game. After all, shooting at red crosses becomes boring eventually.

The reason why EVE subscribers seem like investors is because we just happen to be more vocal, maybe more than others, because of the nature of the game and what it means to us. We know that even changing something as small as the stats on a ship could have huge repercussions that could be felt by every player in one way or another.

Like some have said, if people care about something enough they will speak out, and in EVE Online every little change could affect our own interests, and generally people will speak up when their own interests are at stake.

On the other hand, if changes to a game merely consisted of new items, dungeons, battlegrounds, increased level cap or things of inconsequential nature, which seem to be the major highlights of most popular theme park mmorpgs these days then it's no surprise if hardly anyone has a huge whine or gripe about them.

We care about the game.

That pretty much boils down to the same thing.

CCP owns EVE and EVE is their only product. No publisher, no big 3rd party they are splitting revenue with.

It's a unique scenario, especially for a MMO, and while I think most subscribers can understand that CCP needs to grow and expand their portfolio, it's pretty transparent where the funds are coming from. The EVE players.

Expanding almost drove CCP "bankrupt" some time ago, and almost exhausting those pretty sizable coffers ( EVE is GOOD money ) turned people vary and concerned about where the money is going. Especially since CCP's first response to the situation was 'Greed is Good™' / '18-months' and the introduction of a hilariously priced cash shop.

Only after a sizable amount of subscribers talked with their feet, did CCP re-evaluate their resource allocation.

Of course, being a cold harsh universe sometimes spills over to the forums, but ranting happens on every forum.

Clearly you ain't reading the same forum I am then, cos all I see is a whole lot of nerds caring about their game.

Because Icelandic people who make up CCP team are nice and open hearted, perhaps they have not had all the sorrow and hatred of continental people to its fullest.

This is why CCP's approach is different, and some people exploit this feature, seeing it as 'a weakness'.

In some places being assclownhatdouchebag is highly regarded due to extreme competition in social structure. In some of these places being rich is everything and wild wicked capitalism is the norm.