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Tornado Battlecruiser Dev Blog
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#61 - 2011-10-21 15:43:56 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
Kahz Niverrah wrote:
Traiori wrote:
Whilst being somewhat epic, I suspect that these are going to be ridiculously priced.

We had new T3 ships promised some time back, and T3 battlecruisers was suggested. That given that these are coming mean that these are going to be new T3 ships?

GIven that T3 cruisers are 400-500m+ (a cheap Tengu puts you out about 450m at the moment), T3 battlecruisers will probably be about double that. All the people predicting blobfests are either very rich or er... stupid...

Tier 3, not tech 3.


Why would they be ridiculous, these are tier 3 BCs, they'll have BPOs and BPCs, production will be like any other tech 1 ship.

Also from the dev blog
Quote:
They will be capable of similar damage output as a battleship but obviously all that damage comes at a price.They won‘t be able to tank like a battleship, but what they lack in the tanking department the right pilot should be able to somewhat make up for with speed and distance management.


But a shield hurricane is already ridiculous DPS with little tank but it can actually get this....HIT BCs with medium autos instead of larges.


I assume they're thinking Tech III, made from Sleeper guts and all that.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#62 - 2011-10-21 15:45:05 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Heimdallofasgard wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
This also means that the concept of ships having larger guns than usual is possible so this opens a new can of worms at the yards though already doing this with the super batttleships. Who knows maybe ill make a destroyer with cruiser weapons.


A Battleship with Dread weapons Twisted


Yup called an arsenel ship at the yard Beatrix Armed with 1 capital gun and 1 capital launcher.


Nice.

I remember seeing a gallente hull in that ship contest which had a sleek heavy bow... hope they went with that model... where's the contest entries again??
Xavier Quo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2011-10-21 15:46:40 UTC
this is quite cool as a new player as well, smooths out the massive training jump between BC/med modules and BS/large modules.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2011-10-21 15:46:47 UTC
RIP mining industry


the tornado and its 3 counterparts will now see the death of the mining industry............ a cheaper suicide ganking ship that can alpha hulks......even well tanked hulks.....

Expect a lot of miners to cry.

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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
#65 - 2011-10-21 15:47:22 UTC
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Satav wrote:
battlecruiser with battleship guns........... great, now we'll have even more overuse of alpha fleets.......


... which will get eaten up by smaller ships the BS guns can't hit or track very well.

I actually hoped for battlecruiser hulls with citadel torpedo launchers, a bit like stealth bombers - but designed against capitals. Would be the perfect way to get new players into a really useful role in nulsec warffare!! Blink
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
#66 - 2011-10-21 15:49:21 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
RIP mining industry


Expect a lot of miners to cry.



This is an ongoing theme in EvE.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2011-10-21 15:51:25 UTC
i thought they were supposed to be EW battleships.... oh well.. this looks like it might work out ok.
Callic Veratar
#68 - 2011-10-21 15:54:13 UTC
Heimdallofasgard wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Heimdallofasgard wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
This also means that the concept of ships having larger guns than usual is possible so this opens a new can of worms at the yards though already doing this with the super batttleships. Who knows maybe ill make a destroyer with cruiser weapons.


A Battleship with Dread weapons Twisted


Yup called an arsenel ship at the yard Beatrix Armed with 1 capital gun and 1 capital launcher.


Nice.

I remember seeing a gallente hull in that ship contest which had a sleek heavy bow... hope they went with that model... where's the contest entries again??


You're thinking of the Naru-Kami, I believe.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#69 - 2011-10-21 15:54:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
Cruise missiles on a BC? Cloaky bombers are going down... see you at my low sec gate camp. :D

Pirate

Also: Anyone selling old Tier 1 & 2 BC BPOs?

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#70 - 2011-10-21 15:54:51 UTC
nice boost to jita freighter gankers.

any other uses for those things?
Alara IonStorm
#71 - 2011-10-21 15:56:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
nice boost to jita freighter gankers.

any other uses for those things?

Killing the Hurricanes and Drakes that make up half of current EVE PvP for one thing.
Kahz Niverrah
Distinguished Johnsons
#72 - 2011-10-21 15:57:02 UTC
Mnengli Noiliffe wrote:
nice boost to jita freighter gankers.

any other uses for those things?

He mad.

I don't always post on the forums, but when I do, I post with my main.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#73 - 2011-10-21 15:58:06 UTC
a ship to murder supercaps and everyone in highsec?

gonna call this one the goonado

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Vicar2008
MCMLXXVI
#74 - 2011-10-21 16:02:41 UTC
Lol,

I just saw high sec get a nerf :D Cheaper ships to gank Freighters and Shiny Faction ships. I like....... Twisted
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#75 - 2011-10-21 16:05:18 UTC
Vicar2008 wrote:
Lol,

I just saw high sec get a nerf :D Cheaper ships to gank Freighters and Shiny Faction ships. I like....... Twisted


What'll be funny is watching a small flock of Buzzards or the like ripping them a new one.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#76 - 2011-10-21 16:13:14 UTC
okst666 wrote:
battleship damage output with low tank? What is the point about having that? If I want that, I put Rails on Hyperions without hardeners


Yeah because the tier 3 BC's will totally cost 150m a hull.... and they will totally move at 104m/s

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Alara IonStorm
#77 - 2011-10-21 16:14:39 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
okst666 wrote:
battleship damage output with low tank? What is the point about having that? If I want that, I put Rails on Hyperions without hardeners


Yeah because the tier 3 BC's will totally cost 150m a hull.... and they will totally move at 104m/s

Don't forget the 50million less in medium rigs.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#78 - 2011-10-21 16:18:59 UTC
i got to admit that i'm curious about the stats. If it has PG and CPU to fit battleship sized weaponry, that also means it must have PG and CPU the fit BS sized tank but with BC sized guns..

Unless its capability to fit BS sized guns comes in the same way that SB's can fit torp launchers..

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Vastek Non
State War Academy
Caldari State
#79 - 2011-10-21 16:19:09 UTC
Callic Veratar wrote:
Heimdallofasgard wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
Heimdallofasgard wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
This also means that the concept of ships having larger guns than usual is possible so this opens a new can of worms at the yards though already doing this with the super batttleships. Who knows maybe ill make a destroyer with cruiser weapons.


A Battleship with Dread weapons Twisted


Yup called an arsenel ship at the yard Beatrix Armed with 1 capital gun and 1 capital launcher.


Nice.

I remember seeing a gallente hull in that ship contest which had a sleek heavy bow... hope they went with that model... where's the contest entries again??


You're thinking of the Naru-Kami, I believe.


Now THAT is a damned nice ship Shocked

Me wants, badly.
JackStraw56
Run Like an Antelope
#80 - 2011-10-21 16:19:25 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
RIP mining industry


the tornado and its 3 counterparts will now see the death of the mining industry............ a cheaper suicide ganking ship that can alpha hulks......even well tanked hulks.....

Expect a lot of miners to cry.

Why would these be any better than actual battleships at ganking hulks? BSs are already cheap enough after insurance.